From rhoskins@home.com Thu Mar 23 05:09:48 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA10672 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:09:46 -0800 Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA20020 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:09:46 -0800 Received: from c501552a ([24.5.121.123]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000323130945.KMMT12749.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c501552a> for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:09:45 -0800 Message-ID: <008501bf94c9$0cad6210$7b790518@olmpi1.wa.home.com> From: "Dick Hoskins" To: References: <001a01bf8d1d$95f4ce40$7b790518@olmpi1.wa.home.com> <38D8FB80.88E8C089@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu> Subject: Re: SPATIAL DATA ANALYSIS Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:09:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 This is a reply to an individual but I am sending it to the whole list because I think its relevant: I do remember how the list functions as I just reminded everyone. Hopefully I'll remember too ... don't hesitate to remind me ... ! >You mentioned a > book in your talk called INTERACTIVE SPATIAL DATA ANALYSIS by Trevor > Baily. What can you tell me about this book in regards to utilizing the > methods with existing software (ie: ARcView 3.2 and SPatial analysis > 1.0). THere is a disk with the book but I can't remember what you said > about it, whether it contained its own program or not. Will it be > necessary to buy a robust statistical package for doing this spatial > analysis or can an existing ESRI product do it? The book Is: Interactive Spatial Data Analysis/Book and Disk by Trevor C. Bailey (Contributor), Anthony C. Gatrell $75.00; Paperback - 413 pages Bk&Disk edition (August 1995) Addison-Wesley Pub Co; ISBN: 0582244935 ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.05 x 9.18 x 6.16 It comes with a program "InfoMap" which is DOS based, a bit of a pain to run in the current computing environment, but it hasn't ever crashed - more than I can sat for much else I use. Good tutorial program. You can pay some extra and get a version that will allow you to read in larger datasets. Not clear its worth the effort but its great for looking at the datasets in the book. ArcView can be connected to SPLUS (www.mathsoft.com) but its not cheap. In fact I think it is very expensive for what you get. ESRI has an expensive extension to ArcView called spatial analyst, not much statistical stuff in it. It too is very expensive. If you are in a university environment you might be able to get it for free. ESRI, unlike the other vendors has had the sense to make access to their products for nothing at many universities. Unfortunately other vendors have not figured out what a big market they are creating for their products by doing this. There are some free spatial stat programs out there, among them CrimeStat. http://www.nedlevine.com/nedlevine17.htm I met Ned at the IHGC last weekend - very, very sharp fellow. He is open to suggestions about additional capacilities. CrimeStat does some of the classic analysis that can't be found elsewhere and are still useful. The manual is a pretty good spatial stat course. It is point based, and if you can geocode your data it will fit right in. A newer version is available soon, version 1.1. Another is SatScan by a NCI team led by Martin Kulldorff. For some reason the URL I have always used http://www.dcpc.nci.nih.gov/BB/SaTScan.html is not reacheable. A use of SatScan can be found at http://www.metrokc.gov/health/phnr/eapd/reports/cancer/seatac_update1299.htm Its in there somewhere. >I am currently pursuing my MPH at > UT-Houston SPH and would like to carry on with epidemiology and GIS in > some form but there are not that many people knowledgeable in this area > in the field of public health (The GIS part I mean). You are right, not many (still) public health people doing GIS yet. Although there were 250 of them at the IHGC in Checy Chase last weekend. http://www.jhsph.edu/ihgc/ The area is growing, but there are limited programs in schools of public health in the US. However at UW in Seattle more and more MPH thesis and PhD dissertations are apearing with geographic components. However, I think that is a good reason to take up spatial epidemiology. Not many people doing it, the data is getting cheaper and cheaper, the technology has definitely arrived, and the field is still so small that participants will still talk to each other. Check out "training" at http://www.biomedware.com/ Richard Hoskins WAPHGIS listserve Listserve for GIS and Public Health Northwest Center for Public Health Practice School of Public Health and Community Medicine University of Washington, Seattle rhoskins@home.com www.hslib.washington.edu/nwcphp/ To subscribe to the list, send a message to listproc@u.washington.edu with the request "subscribe waphgis" followed by your name in the body of the message, like so: subscribe waphgis Jane Doe .