From jimmyl@u.washington.edu Sat Jan 10 18:29:16 2004 Received: from mxu8.u.washington.edu (mxu8.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.142]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id i0B2TFuL104086 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:29:15 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu8.u.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id i0B2TERg028028; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:29:15 -0800 Received: from dante25.u.washington.edu (dante25.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.80]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id i0B2TEbS027127; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:29:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (jimmyl@localhost) by dante25.u.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id i0B2TDSY049936; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:29:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: james keith lingwood To: "A. Hegyvary" cc: uwracing@u.washington.edu Subject: sunday ride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION 0, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT 0, REFERENCES 0.000, IN_REP_TO 0' yeah, friel's book is a great tool. anyways, the ride tomorrow will be country store loop. originally we were planning on doing the same route every sunday so you could practice fast riding and whatnot but there are just too many good rides around to limit ourselves and it's pretty hard to figure them out by yourself. so, we will be mixing it up on sundays, you'll get a great ride and hopefully learn lots of new routes. sorry to jerk you guys around. also, we'll be having another shop night tentatively thursday jan 22 7pm-9pm. is there anyone that needs to go but absolutely cannot make this? see you tomorrow, 10am as usual. jimmy On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, A. Hegyvary wrote: > > Howdy- > > A few of my thoughts too... I agree with what Jimmy was talking about > with regard to training plans, that they are useful for some but can be > detrimental for others. I'm trying to follow one now with reasonable > success, but my first year the plan was bad for me. I'd get behind on my > weekly hours, get discouraged, then try to "make up" hours later. I ended > up overtraining and burning out, and actually had to take several months > off to recover (I also had persistent mono, to top things off). > The moral of the story, always train with moderation. Even if you do > feel great one day, and it's sunny and the birds are chirping, don't > exceed some basic training parameters. For instance, if you are only > planning on racing 4/5's and collegiate, you realistically do not have to > ever ride more than three hours. Going farther than that is really fun > and it's good to get your ass kicked now and again, but what you're doing > is making it more likely that you'll need to take extra time off, and in > the long run it would be better to ride 6 days a week, 2 hours every day > than to ride 6 hours on Monday, get sick, and ride another 6 hours on > Friday. I know that sounds extreme, but that's a cycle I got into. At > the peak of my insanity, I did a 160mi training ride around the south > end of the lake, over Tiger and Cougar, up Snoqualmie pass, and around > the north end. It took 8hrs and I had to take off several days > afterwords. That's not really *training,* unless RAAM is in your future. > If you have a bad week, by all means take time off. But don't think you > can come back next week with double hours to make up for it. Training is > not linear, and there will always be basic principles (stress/recover) > that will confine you. > The same goes for intensity. Even if you aren't working on a > periodization schedule, do try to resist going all-out right now. > Overtraining is very easy to do in cycling, and if you're going at 100% in > early January, you simply will not be able to be 100% come summer. And if > you can mantain the same intensity year around, then you aren't reaching > your full potential during racing season. Would you rather win the Cat 6 > world championship hill climb in Decemeber, or win an actual race? That > doesn't mean you can't have a good time with the buds and hammer every now > and then, but do so with knowledge and some level of restraint. > That's my $.02, hopefully it will help some of you. I've said it before > and will say it again, even if you don't have any desire to make up a > training plan, I highly recommend Joe Friel's book (Cyclist's Training > Bible) if you are interested in how to train with some degree of > structure. Simply knowing the basic principles of excercise physiology > will help your routine, and ultimately make a better cyclist. See you on > the road, > > -Adrian- > .