From lockyert@mweb.co.za Sun Jul 15 06:44:23 2001 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f6FDiL0116566 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 06:44:22 -0700 Received: from jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za [196.2.48.243]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f6FDi6K19594 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 06:44:07 -0700 Received: from al40 ([196.30.235.195]) by jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with SMTP id <0GGI00KR9ORLIE@jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za> for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:42:59 +0200 (GMT-2) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:40:53 +0200 From: Terrence Lockyer Subject: Mea culpa [WAS: Re: Ignes festi] To: Classics List Message-id: <000701c10d33$ee74a6c0$c3eb1ec4@al40> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 As this thread has now moved from James Butrica's statement of Thu, 12 Jul 2001 as follows: : I've never knowingly been to anything that : called itself a chat room, and have always : had the impression from the media that chat : rooms are where people go to chat up minors : for sex or other similarly sordid purposes. to Bruce McMenomy's of Sat, 14 Jul 2001 that : There is nothing about the medium itself, : however, that imparts to it a particular moral : spin. Nor is there really anything about it that : makes it especially suitable for pornography, I feel compelled, in the interests of openness and informed participation, to confess that I not only own, but very frequently dip into a volume that contains photographic reproductions of several quite explicitly pornographic images. Less upright members of this forum may, perchance, have heard tell of this minor repository of iniquity, and of its knavish compiler.[[1]] In addition, I am personally acquainted with at least one senior academic who displays quite openly upon his office bookshelves another volume containing similar reproductions, together with quite extensive text.[[2]] That I have never found the presence of this work especially offensive may provide some indication of my own moral character. Don't say you haven't been warned! Terrence Lockyer Johannesburg, South Africa PS. Ostraka may be directed to my usual address. [[1]] John Boardman, Athenian Red Figure Vases: The Archaic Period. A Handbook (London : Thames and Hudson 1975 [reprinted 1993]) [[2]] Martin F. Kilmer, Greek Erotica (London : Duckworth 1993) .