From dgw1@nyu.edu Mon Sep 30 12:02:50 2002 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g8UJ2YFD074464 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:02:35 -0700 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Sep 30 12:02:33 2002 -0700 Received: from mx2.nyu.edu (MX2.NYU.EDU [128.122.108.103]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with ESMTP id g8UJ2XdX006747 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:02:33 -0700 Received: from computer (DIALN-ASYNC634.DIAL.NET.NYU.EDU [216.165.5.140]) by mx2.nyu.edu (Switch-2.2.1/Switch-2.2.0) with SMTP id g8UJ2MK16617 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <032b01c268b3$450cd9e0$6303a5d8@computer> From: "Diana Wright" To: References: Subject: Re: Ariadne auf Dia Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:57:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0324_01C26891.BA619860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0324_01C26891.BA619860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dia is thought to be the little island just north of Knossos. Gantz 115 = says the story is recounted by Pherekydes [3F148] in which Theseus = abandons Ariadne on Dia at the instruction of Athena. Dionysos arrives, = does his thing, gives her a crown & leaves. Artemis then slays her for = losing her virginity. All the gods appear at their worst. DW ---- Original Message -----=20 From: James M. Pfundstein=20 To: classics@u.washington.edu=20 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: Ariadne auf Dia Does anyone know the story behind Homer's passing reference to=20 Ariadne in the _nekuia_ of the _Odyssey_? idon kal=EAn ... Ariadn=EAn, kour=EAn Min=F4os oloophronos, h=EAn pote Th=EAseus ek Kr=EAt=EAs es gounon Ath=EAna=F4n hiera=F4n =EAge men, oud'apon=EAto; paros de min Artemis ekta Di=EAi en amphirut=EAi Dionusou marturi=EAisin. --_Odyssey_ 11.321-325 (text and trans from Perseus) "I saw... fair Ariadne, the daughter of Minos of baneful mind, whom once Theseus was fain to bear from Crete to the hill of sacred Athens; but he had no joy of her, for ere that Artemis slew her in sea-girt Dia because of the witness of Dionysus." This seems incompatible with the later and better known (to me)=20 version where Theseus dumps Ariadne on Naxos, and Bacchus comes along=20 later and marries her. JMP("Polutrupos") ------=_NextPart_000_0324_01C26891.BA619860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dia is thought to be the little = island just=20 north of Knossos.  Gantz 115 says the story is recounted by = Pherekydes=20 [3F148] in which Theseus abandons Ariadne on Dia at the instruction of=20 Athena.  Dionysos arrives, does his thing, gives her a crown &=20 leaves.  Artemis then slays her for losing her virginity.  All = the=20 gods appear at their worst.
 
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---- Original Message -----
From:=20 James M.=20 Pfundstein
To: classics@u.washington.edu
Sent: Monday, September 30, = 2002 2:39=20 PM
Subject: Ariadne auf Dia

Does anyone know the story behind Homer's passing = reference to=20
Ariadne in the _nekuia_ of the _Odyssey_?

idon kal=EAn ...=20 Ariadn=EAn,
kour=EAn Min=F4os oloophronos, h=EAn pote = Th=EAseus
ek Kr=EAt=EAs es=20 gounon Ath=EAna=F4n hiera=F4n
=EAge men, oud'apon=EAto; paros de = min Artemis=20 ekta
Di=EAi en amphirut=EAi Dionusou = marturi=EAisin.

--_Odyssey_=20 11.321-325 (text and trans from Perseus)

"I saw... fair = Ariadne, the=20 daughter of Minos of baneful mind,
whom once Theseus was fain to = bear from=20 Crete to the hill of
sacred Athens; but he had no joy of her, for = ere that=20 Artemis
slew her in sea-girt Dia because of the witness of=20 Dionysus."

This seems incompatible with the later and better = known (to=20 me)
version where Theseus dumps Ariadne on Naxos, and Bacchus = comes along=20
later and marries=20 her.

JMP("Polutrupos")
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