From swinter@u.washington.edu Fri Nov 7 07:48:12 1997 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA43254 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:48:11 -0800 Received: from homer05.u.washington.edu (swinter@homer05.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.12]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA15328 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:48:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (swinter@localhost) by homer05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA73250 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:48:10 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:48:09 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Newcomb To: uwcc@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: That Old Foreign Language Again *:) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chequita (and Everyone)-- Two answers: 1. A "native speaker" should NOT take 103 if he/she is going to transfer to UW. At UW, students are not normally allowed to get credit for the first two years of their native language. UW's definition of a native speaker for purposes of admission and graduation requirements is someone who spoke a language other than English in the home during childhood and whose education was conducted in that language through the end of the seventh grade. In general, then, if a student moved to the US before the end of the seventh grade, he/she is not considered a "native speaker." If a person IS a "native speaker," he/she does not need to take any language courses at all, either for admission or for graduation. (But as you know, Admissions wants the high school records.) The reason I say he/she should not take 103 (other than that it's a waste of time) is that I think Admissions would delete the credit for it. Maybe Emily can comment on that. 2. The second answer: suppose you had a student who wasn't a native speaker but just knew a language pretty well and was able to begin with 103. Yes, he/she would meet the graduation requirement with just that one course, AS LONG AS THE GRADE WAS 2.0 OR HIGHER. --Dick Newcomb | Richard D. Newcomb, Associate Director | (206)543-4906 | | Undergraduate Advising Center Box 353760 | Fax:(206)685-8299 | | University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195 | rnewcomb@u.washington.edu | On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Chequita Williams-Cox wrote: > I know you have probably answered this one but here I go again. > > Native student who is fluent in foreign language.... Takes 103 and > passes. Will he/she need to take anymore foreign language for > deficiency or proficiency? > > > *Chequita Maria Williams-Cox > Program Manager, Educational Planning & Advising Center > Mail Stop: B234 > Bellevue Community College > 3000 Landerholm Circle SE > Bellevue, WA 98007-6484 > (425)641-5728 ~ cwilliam@bcc.ctc.edu > > > .