From gemma.burford@talk21.com Thu Aug 24 02:10:42 2000 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA159104 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 02:10:41 -0700 From: gemma.burford@talk21.com Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA04933 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 02:10:40 -0700 Received: from t21mtaV-lrs ([10.216.84.19]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000824091136.CTJA28759.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:11:36 +0100 X-Mailer: talk21 v1.13 - http://www.talk21.com To: indknow@u.washington.edu X-Talk21Ref: none Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:09:55 BST Subject: Re: draft lttr to ed NYTimes - rice polyculture article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20000824091136.CTJA28759.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Just=20wanted=20to=20let=20you=20know=20I=20have=20forwarded=20the=20letter=20to=20Darrell=20Posey=20-=20so=20no-one=20else=20does! Best=20wishes, Gemma=20Burford >=20Hello=20again=20IndKnow-L=20denizens=20- > >My=20thanks=20to=20those=20who=20have=20sent=20encouragement!=20However,=20I=20have=20yet=20 >to=20receive=20any=20nice=20examples=20or=20other=20chunks=20of=20text=20to=20use=20in=20the=20 >letter=20to=20the=20editor.=20=20Perhaps=20a=20more=20 >fleshed=20out=20draft=20will=20make=20it=20easier=20for=20folks=20to=20make=20such=20 >contributions.=20You=20will=20find=20draft=200.1=20below=20as=20well=20as=20some=20more=20 >well-defined=20requests=20for=20assistance.=20Please=20send=20me=20your=20comments,=20 >criticisms,=20and,=20preferably,=20usable=20chunks=20of=20text! > >I.=20Draft=200.1=20(disclaimers/apology=20follow=20below) > >It=20is=20wonderful=20to=20see=20you=20report=20on=20the=20latest=20agricultural=20research=20 >demonstrating=20that=20planting=20different=20varieties=20of=20rice=20together=20 >drastically=20reduces=20the=20need=20for=20pesticides=20and=20produces=20much=20larger=20 >yields=20("Simple=20Method=20Found=20to=20Vastly=20Increase=20Crop=20Yields",=20 =20August=2022,=202000).=20It=20is=20not=20often=20 >that=20the=20world=20is=20presented=20with=20such=20win-win=20situations,=20and=20the=20 >researchers=20involved=20should=20be=20greatly=20lauded=20for=20documenting=20this.=20 >One=20important=20aspect=20of=20this=20story=20seems=20to=20have=20been=20overlooked,=20 >though:=20The=20benefits=20of=20planting=20different=20crops=20or=20varieties=20 >together=20("polyculture")=20are=20*not*=20the=20latest=20discovery=20of=20modern=20 >agronomy.=20Rather,=20this=20research=20may=20be=20the=20most=20*ironic*=20discovery=20in=20 >the=20history=20of=20agronomy.=20Polyculture=20is=20what=20pretty=20much=20all=20farmers=20 >practiced=20until=20recently.=20here=3F>=20These=20complex,=20management-intensive=20systems=20have=20largely=20been=20 >replaced=20by=20more=20fragile,=20fossil-fuel-dependent=20monocultures=20thanks=20 >to=20the=20advances=20of=20agronomic=20science=20and=20its=20derived=20technologies,=20 >along=20with=20changing=20political=20and=20economic=20contexts.=20You=20have=20 >reported=20on=20the=20amazing=20story=20that=20some=20new=20way=20has=20been=20found=20to=20 >reduce=20environmental=20damage=20while=20still=20producing=20lots=20of=20food.=20But=20 >there=20is=20another=20amazing=20story=20to=20be=20told=20as=20well:=20that=20a=20group=20of=20 >scientists=20have=20done=20something=20incredibly=20subversive=20and=20 >extraordinary.=20They=20have=20shown=20that=20not=20all=20Progress=20is=20really=20 >progress.=20They=20have=20demonstrated=20with=20beautifully=20hard=20numbers=20that=20 >modern=20agronomy=20may=20have=20taken=20a=20wrong=20turn=20somewhere=20along=20the=20way.=20 >They=20are=20reminding=20us=20that=20there=20are=20valuable=20lessons=20to=20be=20learned=20 >from=20the=20past=20and=20from=20other=20less-industrialized=20cultures.=20It=20is=20rare=20 >to=20see=20such=20humility=20in=20today's=20Gilded=20Age=20buzz=20of=20"we=20won=20the=20Cold=20 >War"=20dot-com=20permanent-boom=20futurology.=20Indigenous=20farmers=20worldwide,=20 >and=20the=20ghosts=20of=20Mayan,=20,=20and=20 >countless=20other=20long-dead=20cultures,=20should=20salute=20these=20scientists=20 >for=20validating=20within=20academia=20something=20that=20they=20have=20known=20in=20 >practice=20all=20along.=20dumb=20when=20I'm=20*really*=20aiming=20at=20academia=20and=20Progress.> > >Sincerely > > >II.=20Disclaimers/apology/questions > >I=20am=20trying=20to=20make=20the=20letter=20palatable=20and=20reasonable=20by: > >a)=20=20not=20attacking=20the=20reporter >not=20=20attacking=20the=20researchers. > >I=20may=20not=20have=20succeeded=20in=20doing=20so.=20Suggestions=20on=20how=20to=20do=20so=20 >would=20be=20more=20than=20welcome. > >I=20praise=20the=20researchers=20for=20doing=20something=20that=20maybe=20they=20really=20 >aren't=20interested=20in=20doing:=20being=20"subversive".=20This=20may=20be=20a=20bad=20 >tactic=3F > >I=20tried=20to=20walk=20the=20fine=20line=20between=20dead=20academic=20prose=20on=20one=20side=20 >and=20romantic=20rebellious=20rabble-rousing=20on=20the=20other.=20I=20think=20I=20spent=20 >most=20of=20my=20time=20falling=20off=20the=20line=20to=20one=20side=20or=20the=20other.=20Please=20 >suggest=20where=20things=20should=20=20be=20livened=20up=20or=20toned=20down=20(and=20how=20to=20 >do=20it!). > >Does=20anybody=20have=20any=20comments=20on=20letter-to-the-editor=20appropriate=20 >style=20and=20grammar=3F=20(E.g.,=20is=20it=20appropriate=20to=20refer=20to=20the=20editor(s)=20 >as=20"you"=20as=20I=20have=20done=20in=20the=20first=20sentence=3F) > >III.=20=20Specific=20requests=20for=20help > >Below=20I=20have=20listed=20the=20names=20of=20some=20profs=20and=20an=20institution.=20I=20 >suspect=20that=20these=20people=20might=20be=20interested=20in=20pursuing=20(or=20at=20 >least=20advising)=20this=20letter=20to=20the=20editor=20"project".=20If=20any=20of=20you=20 >know=20any=20of=20them=20and=20think=20it=20would=20be=20appropriate,=20would=20you=20be=20kind=20 >enough=20to=20pass=20along=20one/some=20of=20my=20messages=20with=20a=20brief=20explanation=20 >of=20what=20we=20are=20trying=20to=20do=3F=20I=20have=20met=20some=20of=20these=20people,=20but=20 >only=20briefly,=20so=20any=20message=20*I*=20send=20to=20them=20will=20have=20to=20spend=20a=20 >lot=20of=20my=20and=20their=20time=20explaining=20who=20I=20am=20and=20generally=20trying=20to=20 >evade=20their=20random-unsolicited-email=20filters. > > >Nabhan,=20Gary >Pimentel,=20David >Posey,=20Darrell >Salick,=20Jan >Thurston,=20H.=20David > >Indigenous=20Knowledge=20and=20Development=20Monitor >=20=20=20=20Nuffic=20-=20the=20Netherlands=20organization=20for=20international >=20=20=20=20cooperation=20in=20higher=20education=20CIRAN=20-=20Centre=20for=20International >=20=20=20=20Research=20and=20Advisory=20Networks=20=20 > >******************************** > >Thanks=20for=20your=20help! > >Isidor >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Isidor=20F.=20Ruderfer=20/=20Consrvtn.Ecology=20&=20Sustnbl.Devlpmnt.Prgrm=20 >Inst.=20of=20Ecol.;=20U.of=20Georgia=20/=20***currently:Las=20Cruces=20Biological=20 >Station;Sn=20Vito;Coto=20Brus;COSTA=20RICA=20/=20phone:506.773.4004=20 >fax:506.773.3665=20/=20**Personal=20Fax=20-->=20email#:=20815.377.3028=20(USA) >**Please=20reply=20to:=20ruderfer@iname.com >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Igneous=20rocks=20+=20acid=20volatiles=20=3D=20sedimentary=20rocks=20+=20salty=20oceans" 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