From wimvdg@uol.com.br Sun Jul 30 10:42:24 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA62016 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:42:23 -0700 Received: from cendrars.uol.com.br (cendrars.uol.com.br [200.231.206.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA10477 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:31:55 -0700 Received: from wvdgroc ([200.227.255.136]) by cendrars.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA15341 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:31:39 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <005501bffa4b$e4931980$88ffe3c8@wvdgroc> From: "Wim van den Groenendaal" To: Subject: Dionysius Thrax?? later grammarian, pitch Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:30:41 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01BFFA32.BCB74760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01BFFA32.BCB74760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable some replies on my earlier uestion brachned into other directions. I = still do not know the answers to points 2-5. =20 1./ is it Dionysius Thrax who is the the later Greek grammarians = mentioning a musical fifth as the right up-swing for an acute?=20 =20 2./ Is there a good edition for this text?=20 =20 3./ Is he the only "contemporary" commenting on this pitch issue?=20 =20 4./ Does "the Prosody of Greek Speech" (Devine and Stephens) discuss = this particular subject? I ask as I have not been able to track this = book down in Brasil.=20 =20 5./ Is there a web site with a few lines of Homer, in mpeg or some other = format, pronounced by a few knowledgeable people, with male and female = pronunciation? And if there is no such site, could a few knowledgeable = people set it up? The alternative now is to buy very expensive = cassettes, that probably give some interpretation of only one person. = The pronunciation guide at = http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ancgreek/ancient_greek_start.html , which = I found extremely helpful by the way, only has words.=20 =20 Thanks,=20 =20 Wim van den Groenendaal ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01BFFA32.BCB74760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

some replies on my = earlier uestion=20 brachned into other directions. I still do not know the answers to = points=20 2-5.

1./ is it Dionysius = Thrax who is the=20 the later Greek grammarians mentioning a musical fifth as the right = up-swing for=20 an acute?

2./ Is there a good = edition for this=20 text?

3./ Is he the only=20 "contemporary" commenting on this pitch issue?

4./ Does "the = Prosody of Greek=20 Speech" (Devine and Stephens) discuss this particular subject? I = ask as I=20 have not been able to track this book down in Brasil.

5./ Is there a web site = with a few=20 lines of Homer, in mpeg or some other format, pronounced by a few = knowledgeable=20 people, with male and female pronunciation? And if there is no such = site, could=20 a few knowledgeable people set it up? The alternative now is to buy very = expensive cassettes, that probably give some interpretation of only one = person.=20 The pronunciation guide at = http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ancgreek/ancient_greek_start.html=20 , which I found extremely helpful by the way, only has words. =

Thanks,

Wim van den = Groenendaal

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