From info@caratzas.com Sun Sep 30 07:04:13 2001 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with SMTP id f8UE4CN27380 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 07:04:12 -0700 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Sep 30 07:04:08 2001 -0700 Received: from thor.hol.gr (thor.hol.gr [194.30.192.25]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with SMTP id f8UE47Q02341 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 07:04:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 1423 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2001 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from isis.hol.gr (194.30.192.21) by thor.hol.gr with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 13:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9759 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2001 14:03:33 -0000 Received: from vdp233.ath07.cas.hol.gr (HELO caratzas.com) (195.97.122.234) by isis.hol.gr with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 14:03:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3BB72652.23599EA1@caratzas.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:04:10 +0300 From: "J. S. Philobiblos" Reply-To: info@caratzas.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: el,da,en,de,fr,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: On the Dispilio (mystery) tablets ... a PS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Isidoros wrote: > > BTW, the Dispilio find is not the only evidence for writing we have from > prehistoric Greece. I know of at least two other sites that yielded recently > items of special (I think) interest, and from about the same time frame. > Colin Renfrew has become very much interested in one of them, believing > that such as these lend further support to his theory of indigenous cultural > development in Greece-- a long held thesis by GCh. and other Greek > archaeologists. "indigenous cultural development," means what exactly. I can imagine that such a thesis would belong to the school of extreme Greek cultural chauvinism that also denies that proto Indo-european exists, claims that all languages sprang from Greek etc. In other words what most here would consider far out, to put it mildly. Maybe you can explain this thesis a little more fully. Also this is this the first time I see Renfrew's theory described this way. As I understood Renfrew, he simply argued against large scale "Völkerwanderungen," but that was in an old book of his. His notion of gradual and slow spread of peoples does not exclude cultural invasion. Christiane Caratzas .