From mcmahon@mail.lemoyne.edu Wed Jun 4 09:55:40 2003 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h54Gtd1M041342 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:55:39 -0700 Received: from KIWI (kiwi.lemoyne.edu [192.231.122.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h54Gtc85031154 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:55:38 -0700 Received: from mail.lemoyne.edu ([192.168.250.67]) by KIWI; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:55:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3EDE2453.1E1356E5@mail.lemoyne.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:54:43 -0400 From: "John M. McMahon" Reply-To: mcmahon@mail.lemoyne.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Declining Western Civ. References: <1204f1f12054d0.12054d01204f1f@homemail.nyu.edu> <496730534.20030603211005@idirect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Butrica wrote: > > >David - it's obvious! The 5th Harry Potter book will never be written! > >Panic! Riot in the streets! Mourn the new death of Western Civilisation! > >(again) > > > >Chris Elliott-Butcher > But will any of them still be translated into Latin -- or Attic Greek? > Surely *that's* the test of decline and fall. So. Accepting for the sake of argument that we could actually measure the scores on a (standardized?) "test of decline and fall," can we assume that *Winnie Ille Pooh* and *Tela Charlottae* have failed to halt our current precipitous and Icarian crash-and-burn? Or is it rather the Potterian (!) content itself -- but only if reconfigured through those august linguistic media -- that will save us? John McMahon LMC .