From pericles@astro.temple.edu Sun Apr 9 05:47:38 2000 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA05610 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:47:37 -0700 Received: from thunder.ocis.temple.edu (root@thunder.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA28075 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:47:36 -0700 Received: from smaug.ocis.temple.edu (smaug.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.78]) by thunder.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26180 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:47:45 -0400 (EDT) X-WebMail-UserID: pericles Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:47:59 -0400 Sender: pericles From: pericles To: classics@u.washington.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002713 Subject: Redaction Criticism: tone-deaf reading by DPT Message-ID: <38F80C5B@smaug.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 I missed the irony. I respect Steve's knowledge immensely but don't know him personally, and tone is one of dreadfully tricky on the 'net. Maybe we should go bck to de Rahm's 1899 suggestion that we put an upside down exclamation point before any ironic statement. sociology is so despised by some classicists that Steve's remark hardly seemed surprising. I'm glad to be straightened out. With apologies, Dan On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Steve Mason wrote: > > > Don't agree? Oh, Dan, I am so sorry, and not a little saddened > (unless *you* are now intending irony, in which case I apologize for the > apology that's coming), that the intended humor of the passage did not > carry. My hope was rather efficiently to *expose* any sort of disciplinary > triumphalism (e.g., of NT folk) -- by irony, reductio, and all that -- not > *really* to ask you to join me in marching on the poor sociologists. > Honest. Sociologists are in no danger from me, I do hope they realize. Of > course, you are entirely correct that sociologically informed history has > furnished enormous insight into the realia of ancient Judea and Galilee. > And of all people, I should know better than to attempt humour, or even > humor, with these digits. > > ____________________ > Steve Mason, Professor of Humanities > Programmes in Classics and Religious Studies > 219 Vanier College, York University > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3, Canada > smason@yorku.ca; 416-736-2100 x66987; fax 416-736-5460 > http://www.yorku.ca/faculty/academic/smason > .