From espinello@csun.edu Fri Nov 7 15:05:10 2003 Received: from mxu8.u.washington.edu (mxu8.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.142]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id hA7N5AhW033074 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:10 -0800 Received: from plover.csun.edu (plover.csun.edu [130.166.1.24]) by mxu8.u.washington.edu (8.12.10+UW03.09/8.12.10+UW03.09) with ESMTP id hA7N590T008455 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:09 -0800 Received: from puffin.csun.edu (puffin.csun.edu [130.166.1.21]) by plover.csun.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.7-GR) with ESMTP id ASA92597; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rr2 ([4.40.156.86]) by puffin.csun.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.7-GR) with ESMTP id BBP92322 (AUTH hchsc018); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0dd601c3a584$7ddcbbf0$0200a8c0@rr2> From: "E. Spinello" To: References: <20031107202727.73012.qmail@web20309.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: land area data for 1990 ZIP codes? Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:10:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DB5_01C3A541.4E260E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at puffin.csun.edu) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XI, Probability=11%, Report='BIG_FONT, HTML_50_70, HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE, HTML_TAG_UNKNOWN, MAILTO_LINK, REFERENCES, SUPERLONG_LINE, __ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSGID, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __MIME_HTML, __MIME_VERSION, __NEXTPART_ALL, __NEXTPART_NORMAL, __OUTLOOK_MSGID_1, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __REFERENCES, __SANE_MSGID, __TAG_EXISTS_BODY, __TAG_EXISTS_HEAD, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_META, __USER_AGENT_OE' This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DB5_01C3A541.4E260E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like I missed the part about your needing 1990 rather than = 2000. Unfortunately, I don't know of a source for 1990 zip codes off = hand. 1990 TIGER had zip codes but the coverage was not very complete, = as I recall. You might want to try CIESIN (Center for International = Earth Science Information) at http://www.ciesin.org . They have some = fairly extensive historical GIS databases archived on an FTP server. =20 Elio Spinello ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Amy Abruzzi=20 To: waphgis@u.washington.edu=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: Re: land area data for 1990 ZIP codes? Thanks for your note. Unfortunately, ZIP codes used in 2000 do not = necessarily have the same boundaries as those used in 1990. Are you = familiar with any 1990 GIS products that are still available? =20 "E. Spinello" wrote: The 2000 Census TIGER files include zip code tabulation areas = (ZCTA's) which are block groups clustered together to approximate zip = codes. With either the ZCTA file or a zip code file from a 3rd party = vendor, almost any GIS program such as ArcView, Atlas GIS, or MapInfo = can calculate the area and append it to the attribute table. Elio Spinello California State University, Northridge ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James L. Craig=20 To: WAPHGIS@u.washington.edu=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: FW: land area data for 1990 ZIP codes? I wonder if one of the list experts can easily respond to the = enclosed message,=20 with a copy for me? James L. Craig Biological Sciences Librarian/Instructional =20 Services Librarian Biological Sciences Library 214 Morrill Science Center - South University of Massachusetts 611 North Pleasant Street Amherst MA 01003-9297 jlcraig@library.umass.edu 413.545.6690 fx 413.577.1531 http://www.library.umass.edu/subject/healthsci/ Sisu ja Vive Deo et Vives=20 -----Original Message----- From: WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu] On Behalff Of Amy Abruzzi Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:11 PM To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Subject: land area data for 1990 ZIP codes? Hi, I'm a graduate student in epidemiology working on a = fieldwork project for which I need to calculate the population density = for 1990 ZIP codes. So far I've got the population data I need, but = nothing for land area. I recently found out that land area data for ZIP = codes were never included in the 1990 Census. (There is a column for it = in STF3B but all the values are blank). According to their Geography = division, the Census Bureau never had polygon information for 1990 ZIP = codes, but instead created a "ZIP to Block Equivalency file" to tabulate = the population data. The 1990 ZIP to Block Equivalency file appears to = be available through the MABLE'98 Geocorr v3.0 database = (http://plue.sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/plue/geocorr/).=20 Have any of you used MABLE for this purpose? Or, know of a = better or perhaps easier way to do this? =20 =20 I am currently exploring the private vendor options, so far = without success. As per their respective sales reps, GeoLytics 1990 = Census discs do not include land area and GDT no longer has their 1990 = ZIP Code product(s) available. Does anyone know of another company I = can try?=20 =20 Thank you,=20 =20 Amy Abruzzi, MPH student School of Public Health, UMDNJ ------=_NextPart_000_0DB5_01C3A541.4E260E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It looks like I missed the part about = your needing=20 1990 rather than 2000.  Unfortunately, I don't know of a source for = 1990=20 zip codes off hand.  1990 TIGER had zip codes but the coverage was = not very=20 complete, as I recall.  You might want to try CIESIN (Center for=20 International Earth Science Information) at http://www.ciesin.org . They have = some fairly=20 extensive historical GIS databases archived on an FTP server. =20
 
Elio Spinello
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Amy=20 Abruzzi
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 = 12:27=20 PM
Subject: Re: land area data for = 1990 ZIP=20 codes?

Thanks for your note. Unfortunately, ZIP codes used in = 2000 do=20 not necessarily have the same boundaries as those used in=20 1990.  Are you familiar with any 1990 GIS products that = are=20 still available?  

"E. Spinello" <espinello@rpmconsulting.com>=20 wrote:
The 2000 Census TIGER files include = zip code=20 tabulation areas (ZCTA's) which are block groups clustered together = to=20 approximate zip codes.  With either the ZCTA file or a zip code = file=20 from a 3rd party vendor, almost any GIS program such as ArcView, = Atlas GIS,=20 or MapInfo can calculate the area and append it to the attribute=20 table.
 
Elio Spinello
California State University,=20 Northridge
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 James L. Craig =
Sent: Friday, November 07, = 2003 11:27=20 AM
Subject: FW: land area data = for 1990=20 ZIP codes?

I wonder if one of the list experts can = easily=20 respond to the enclosed message,
with a copy for me?
 

James L. Craig
Biological Sciences=20 Librarian/Instructional  
  Services=20 Librarian
Biological Sciences Library
214 Morrill Science = Center -=20 South
University of Massachusetts
611 North Pleasant=20 Street
Amherst MA 01003-9297
jlcraig@library.umass.edu413.545.6690
fx=20 413.577.1531
http://www.library.umass.edu/subject/healthsci/
Si= su   =20 ja    Vive Deo et Vives

 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]=20 On Behalff Of Amy Abruzzi
Sent: Friday, = November 07,=20 2003 2:11 PM
To: = waphgis@u.washington.edu
Subject:=20 land area data for 1990 ZIP codes?

Hi, I=92m a graduate student in = epidemiology=20 working on a fieldwork project for which I need to calculate the = population density for 1990 ZIP codes.   = So far=20 I=92ve got the population data I need, but nothing for land=20 area.  I recently found out that land area = data for=20 ZIP codes were never included in the 1990 Census. (There is = a=20 column for it in STF3B but all the values are = blank). =20 According to their Geography division, the Census Bureau = never=20 had polygon information for 1990 ZIP codes, but instead = created a=20 =93ZIP to Block Equivalency file=94 to tabulate the population = data. The=20 1990 ZIP to Block Equivalency file appears to be available = through the=20 MABLE=9298 Geocorr v3.0 database (http://plue.sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/plue/geocorr/).= =20

Have any of you used MABLE for = this purpose?=20 Or, know of a better or perhaps easier way to do = this?  =20

 

I am currently exploring the = private=20 vendor options, so far without success. As per their respective = sales=20 reps, GeoLytics 1990 Census discs do not include land area and = GDT no=20 longer has their 1990 ZIP Code product(s) available.  = Does anyone know of another company I can try? =

 

Thank you,

 

Amy Abruzzi, MPH = student

School=20 of Public Health,=20 = UMDNJ

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