From espinello@rpmconsulting.com Wed Jan 26 13:34:00 2005 Received: from mxe7.u.washington.edu (mxe7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.169]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.13.3+UW05.01/8.13.3+UW05.01) with ESMTP id j0QLY0UX050914 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:34:00 -0800 Received: from mail05a.webhosting-verizon.net (mail05a.webhosting-verizon.net [209.238.3.57]) by mxe7.u.washington.edu (8.13.3+UW05.01/8.13.3+UW05.01) with SMTP id j0QLXv5i029860 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:33:57 -0800 Received: from www.rpmconsulting.com (208.55.49.200) by mail05a.webhosting-verizon.net (RS ver 1.0.95vs) with SMTP id 4-0848885234 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:33:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <020901c503ee$cdbf6720$0300a8c0@newrr> From: "E. Spinello" To: References: Subject: Re: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data files? Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:34:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01FC_01C503AB.B9C084E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __HAS_X_PRIORITY 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0' This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01FC_01C503AB.B9C084E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data files?I agree = with your opinion of the 19" Samsung flatscreen CRT. I have one as well. = It uses the Sony Trinitron tube and really produces a nice image. The = only downside is the fairly massive size and weight! I also use a 19" = Samsung LCD, which also produces really nice resolution. Elio ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anita M Kay=20 To: waphgis@u.washington.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: RE: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data = files? Thanks very much to all who responded about laptops for GIS. You've = helped me identify exactly how to aim my limited $. =20 In case anyone else is shopping, I found an article on laptops = reviewed by a GIS practitioner. =20 = http://www.geospatial-online.com/geospatialsolutions/article/articleDetai= l.jsp?id=3D70782 Dick, I also recently shopped for a good but inexpensive monitor for = my old desktop computer. I read many reviews by gamers and graphic = artists as well as GIS. In spite of PC World telling us that LCDs now = have comparable or superior image quality, many graphics professionals = report LCDs still are not as high-quality for their purposes as large = high-end CRTs. It doesn't bother me at all to stick with a CRT for = awhile longer until LCD quality is higher, price is lower, and some of = the bugs are worked out of new dimension standards. For low cost and = high enough quality, several reviewers recommended Samsung and Viewsonic = CRTs with "flat technology" that makes images more uniform and accurate = for graphics work. So far I'm very happy with a 19" Samsung for my old = system that I picked up on sale at Circuit City for around $200, and I = think you can get similar 21" and 22" models for around $400. For = example: Samsung SyncMaster 1100DF =20 Anita Kay -----Original Message----- From: WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Hoskins, Richard E. Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:45 PM To: 'waphgis@u.washington.edu' Subject: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data files? Indeed, "wonky" is a perfect word. When I sit in front of a GIS for = 12 hours, I tend to get a bit wonky... Does anyone know if there is any practical limit for size of a pen = drive? Could there be 300GB pen drives? Are they as fast as regular = drives? I use one to transfer data too (i had forgotten) from my GPS = enabled laptop to a work station.=20 Since we are talking hardware, does anyone have a recommendation for = a 20" or greater monitor (at a good price of course)=20 Dick H=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Laurent, Amy Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:18 AM To: 'waphgis@u.washington.edu' Subject: RE: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data = files? USB pen/flash drives are great - although mine has started to get = wonky (do I get points for my usage of the special technical term?) = after a year. But it's seen a lot of use, and was not one of the better = ones. However, one thing to be aware is if one is running lower than Win = 2000, one will need to restart the computer in order for the drive to be = recognized. For W2K and above, they're fantastic!! Amy=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Peter H. Van Demark [mailto:peter@caliper.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:57 AM=20 To: waphgis@u.washington.edu=20 Subject: RE: laptop requirements for running GIS and census data = files?=20 Dick:=20 >One item I recommend is a Maxtor external drive, 250MB which can be = >used for backup and a place to store GIS files. Also convenient for = moving=20 >stuff back and forth to a work station.=20 In that vein, I find a USB flash hard drive to be the sneakernet of = the=20 21st Century. I have a .5GB Pen Drive (www.pendrive.com) that goes = between=20 any computers with a USB port, and at least with MacOS and Windows = it is=20 automatically recognized as an external drive. It has worked = flawlessly for=20 over a year of heavy use.=20 I Googled "pen drive" and saw an ad for a 1GB unit for $89, and = there are=20 units up to 8GB! One thing to note is the read/write speed; better = ones are=20 noticeably faster at writing.=20 Peter=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 Peter Van Demark=20 Director of GIS Products and Training Phone: 617-527-4700=20 Caliper Corporation Fax: 617-527-5113=20 1172 Beacon Street E-mail: peter@caliper.com=20 Newton MA 02461-9926 Web site: http://www.caliper.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01FC_01C503AB.B9C084E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: laptop requirements for running GIS and census = data files?
I agree with your opinion of the 19" = Samsung=20 flatscreen CRT. I have one as well. It uses the Sony Trinitron tube and = really=20 produces a nice image. The only downside is the fairly massive size and=20 weight!  I also use a 19" Samsung LCD, which also produces really = nice=20 resolution.
 
Elio
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anita M = Kay
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, = 2005 1:18=20 PM
Subject: RE: laptop = requirements for=20 running GIS and census data files?

Thanks very much to all who responded about = laptops for=20 GIS.  You've helped me identify exactly how to aim = my=20 limited $. 
 
In=20 case anyone else is shopping, I found an article on laptops = reviewed=20 by a GIS practitioner.   
http://www.geospatial-online.com/geospatialsolu= tions/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=3D70782
 
Dick, I also recently shopped for a good but=20 inexpensive monitor for my old desktop computer.  I = read many=20 reviews by gamers and graphic artists as well as GIS.  In spite = of PC=20 World telling us that LCDs now have comparable or superior image=20 quality, many graphics professionals report LCDs still = are not=20 as high-quality for their purposes as large high-end = CRTs.  It=20 doesn't bother me at all to stick with a CRT for awhile longer until = LCD=20 quality is higher, price is lower, and some of the bugs are = worked out of=20 new dimension standards.  For low cost and high enough = quality,=20 several reviewers recommended Samsung and Viewsonic CRTs with = "flat=20 technology" that makes images more uniform and accurate for graphics=20 work.  So far I'm very happy with a 19" Samsung for my = old=20 system that I picked up on sale at Circuit City for around $200, = and I=20 think you can get similar 21" and 22" models for around = $400.  For=20 example:
Samsung=20 SyncMaster 1100DF  
 
Anita Kay
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On=20 Behalf Of Hoskins, Richard E.
Sent: Tuesday, January = 25, 2005=20 12:45 PM
To: 'waphgis@u.washington.edu'
Subject: = laptop=20 requirements for running GIS and census data = files?

Indeed, "wonky" is a perfect word. When I = sit in front=20 of a GIS for 12 hours, I tend to get a bit = wonky...
 
Does anyone know if there is any practical = limit for=20 size of a pen drive? Could there be 300GB pen drives? Are they as = fast as=20 regular drives?  I use one to transfer data too (i had = forgotten) from=20 my GPS enabled laptop to a work station.
 
Since we are talking hardware, does anyone = have a=20 recommendation for a 20" or greater monitor (at a good price of = course)=20
 
Dick H

From: = WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu=20 [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Laurent, = Amy
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:18 AM
To: = 'waphgis@u.washington.edu'
Subject: RE: laptop = requirements for=20 running GIS and census data files?

USB pen/flash drives are great - although mine has = started=20 to get wonky (do I get points for my usage of the special technical = term?)=20 after a year.  But it's seen a lot of use, and was not one of = the=20 better ones.

However, one thing to be aware is if one is = running lower=20 than Win 2000, one will need to restart the computer in order for = the drive=20 to be recognized.  For W2K and above, they're = fantastic!!

Amy

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Peter H. Van Demark [mailto:peter@caliper.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:57 AM =
To: waphgis@u.washington.edu
Subject: RE:=20 laptop requirements for running GIS and census data files? =


Dick:

>One item I recommend is a Maxtor external = drive, 250MB=20 which can be
>used for backup and a = place to=20 store GIS files. Also convenient for moving
>stuff back and forth to a work station.

In that vein, I find a USB flash hard drive to be = the=20 sneakernet of the
21st Century. I have a = ..5GB Pen=20 Drive (www.pendrive.com) that goes between
any=20 computers with a USB port, and at least with MacOS and Windows it is =
automatically recognized as an external = drive. It=20 has worked flawlessly for
over a year of = heavy=20 use.

I Googled "pen drive" and saw an ad for a 1GB unit = for $89,=20 and there are
units up to 8GB! One thing = to note is=20 the read/write speed; better ones are
noticeably=20 faster at writing.

Peter

----------------------------------------------------------------= =20
Peter Van Demark
Director of GIS=20 Products and Training        = Phone:=20 617-527-4700
Caliper=20 = Corporation          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    =20 Fax: 617-527-5113
1172 Beacon=20 = Street           &= nbsp;        =20 E-mail: peter@caliper.com
Newton MA=20 = 02461-9926          &nb= sp;=20 Web site: http://www.caliper.com=20

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