From ginlindzey@austin.rr.com Sun Feb 24 02:13:31 2002 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g1OADTnJ102882 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:13:29 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 24 02:13:28 2002 -0800 Received: from sm11.texas.rr.com (sm11.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.42]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g1OADRXS022264 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:13:28 -0800 Received: from Ginnyhome (cs6625160-42.austin.rr.com [66.25.160.42]) by sm11.texas.rr.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g1OAATKX015890 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 04:10:33 -0600 From: "Ginny Lindzey" To: Subject: RE: classics majors and skills Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 04:13:53 -0600 Message-ID: <002301c1bd1b$f6550c20$6601a8c0@Ginnyhome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <200202240652.g1O6qMb02483@darwin.helios.nd.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Bookstores carry r,sum, books, but you can just google > through some samples, or get advice from a university > placement office. To a certain extent, the term CV is > restricted to the academic sort of detailed r\202sum\202 that > employers, particularly in the US, don't want to see. > Yes, learning how to write a RESUME or CV that can make you look good for different styles of jobs is a trick that one learns only with time, it seems. Good advice I've recently gotten from a colleague, who did a CV writing workshop for part of his faculty development series, is that you should have multiple CVs worked up with different aims for different employment. Oh so true. Still, what I don't get (and I failed to write this before) is how is managing 150 high school students not the same in some form or fashion as being in a managerial position? Getting STUDENTS to cooperate is far more difficult than employees who want to keep a paycheck.... But back to the point: are classics departments aware that they need to advise (or at least know of someone else on campus who can advise, like someone in the liberals arts in general) graduating students of other opportunities than teaching? Should they be making contact with companies who come to campus with job fairs, advising the companies of just how brilliant their classics graduates are??? Do any of them do this? (This would equate to us secondary teachers explaining to our school counselors that Latin is truly accepted at 98% of the colleges in the US as a foreign language, no matter what misinformation or gossip they've heard.) There have been interesting articles about people who have a classics degree and are in different fields that are on or are linked to the National Committee for Latin and Greek website at www.promotelatin.org. But, quite honestly, while perhaps years ago one could say with determination I'm majoring in classics but going after an occupation in journalism or radio or film or whatever, how does one get past the requirements set up by most employers that your degree HAS TO BE in specific fields like journalism? Even after I picked up some decent desktop publishing skills, all self taught because I know how to read manuals, there were a multitude of jobs I was told I couldn't apply for because I lacked a graphic arts degree. They couldn't care less about a portfolio. ginnyL, middle of the night ramblings .