From thielr@Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE Sun Apr 1 03:50:13 2001 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f31AoC277066 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:50:12 -0700 Received: from Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.1.76]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f31AoBM22101 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:50:12 -0700 Received: from MSN (mppp097.PPP.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.76.97]) by Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f31Ao9J33396 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:50:09 +0200 From: "Rainer Thiel" To: Subject: Deus mei Erus (was: RE: Redneck Latin) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:50:08 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3AC6C183.A2A5F169@sympatico.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I am aware that in the meatime David Lupher has given the same answer, = but since I had added some information about "sui" being used = possessively, it may do no harm to still send my answer: > What precisely is the problem that you have with this sign?=20 > The only thing that I see that is slightly off is the use=20 > of erus instead of the more common dominus Well, I think what is strangest about "Deus mei Erus" is the use of = "mei" (usually objective) as a possessive genitive. While at least in = later Latin "sui" is quite commonly thus used, I can find no example for = "mei" or "tui" in K.-St. This doesn't mean there may no example at all for such a use, e.g. in = mediaeval Latin. But it is certainly a most uncommon, and from the = perspective of even late antique Latin un-idiomatic way to re-phrase the = common Biblical "Deus dominus meus." -- Priv.-Doz. Dr. Rainer Thiel - Paper mail: Univ. FB 10, Klass. Phil. - D-35032 Marburg, Germany = (EU) - For more information and for my PGP public key check my homepage: http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~thielr/ .