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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 01:00:50 -0700
To: classics@u.washington.edu
From: David Lupher <dlupher@ups.edu>
Subject: RE: Unreasonable Standards of Democracy - and Piracy

Steve Zoraster writes:
>In retrospect 9/11/2001 should have been treated as piracy. Laws are still
>on the books for handling acts of war by non-state entities. The coast
>guard, navy and marines still know what to do.
>
>When they got focused the Romans knew how to deal with this type of problem.

Yeah, but crucifixion runs up against our Constitutional squeamishness
about "cruel and unusual punisments."

But the general point is intriguing.  And there was a time when we
ourselves dealt with piracy on (in the words of the song) "the shores of
Tripoli."  But that was a case of a "pirate state"---rather like that of
the Illyrian queen Teuta in the 3rd cent. B.C.

What *is* the status of laws about piracy these days?  I assume that
there have been some refinements since Grotius and Pufendorff dealt
with this (as I assume they *must* have).

>Even if it meant attacking a state that could not control how its own
>territory was used.

But this does run up against complexities in international law that
take us a bit beyond piracy statutes, doesn't it?

David Lupher
Classics Dept.
Univ. of Puget Sound


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