From ptrourke@ziplink.net Sun Apr 11 05:44:44 1999 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA43532 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:44:43 -0700 Received: from ziplink.net (relay-0.ziplink.net [206.15.168.49]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA28715 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:44:42 -0700 Received: from patricktrourke (1Cust72.tnt3.danvers.ma.da.uu.net [153.35.116.72]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA25748 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01be8419$04be9400$48742399@patricktrourke> From: "Patrick T. Rourke" To: "Classics List" Subject: Pronouncing Thames Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:43:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 > > In Connecticut the Thames River is pronounced to rhyme with > >'names' and the 'th' as in "the". >The Connecticut Thames has the "th" of "thin," not the "th" of "the." As in the phoneme "eth" rather than "thorn," a distinction of which some on the list might not be aware, Prof. Curran. I do not think the poster intended a distinction between eth and thorn. One of the funnier signs of pseudointellectualism in New England is the habit of calling the river in Connecticut by the pronunciation of the river in old England - even after being corrected. A better one is the pronunciation of a young lady behind the counter at a cafe on Commonwealth Ave. in Boston, who insisted on calling them "sc-owns" rather than "sc-ons" {"rhyme it with 'on', not, for heaven's sake, 'own'" - Basil Bunting} so far as to correct a young Irish gentleman trying desperately to order a tea and scone. Maybe a reference to Catullus might be on topic? P. T. Rourke ptrourke@ziplink.net http://www.ziplink.net/~ptrourke/ .