From n.lowe@rhul.ac.uk Sun Oct 20 04:07:24 2002 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g9KB7CFD073226 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 04:07:13 -0700 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Oct 20 04:07:12 2002 -0700 Received: from oracle.uk.clara.net (oracle.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with ESMTP id g9KB7AMG012355 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 04:07:11 -0700 Received: from du-041-0134.access.clara.net ([217.158.117.134]) by oracle.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 183DvJ-000341-00 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:07:09 +0100 X-Sender: cc\uhlc001\n.lowe@exch1.rhbnc.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:08:02 +0100 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: Nick Lowe Subject: Re: Biting the Apple As usual, arriving at the thread just as the cortege is pulling away... But to go back to DW's original query: >At the judgment of Paris, what were the bribes Athena & Hera offered = >Paris. I don't find this mentioned in Gantz. In fact it's there: p. 570. The earliest extant source is the papyrus hypothesis of Cratinus' Dionysalexandros (but the coincidence of this with the list in Troades suggests both are drawing on a version that was already in the Cypria). Cratinus, however, has Aphrodite offer Paris/Dionysus/Pericles/wyw beauty and sex appeal rather than, as in later versions, the favours of Helen; this is actually rather more symmetric with the other gifts, so it's not absurd to wonder whether Cratinus' spoof is actually closer to the Cypria version than the Euripidean tradition. Nick Lowe. .