From owner-celegans@net.bio.net Mon Aug 29 23:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!uunet!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!news.mic.ucla.edu!steve1.mbi.ucla.edu!rkagan From: Ron Kagan Newsgroups: bionet.celegans Subject: Re: cans of worms? Date: 29 Aug 1994 23:35:00 GMT Organization: Dept. of Chem.&Biochem. UCLA Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <33trb4$j11@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <199408292034.AA17366@ponyexpress.princeton.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: steve1.mbi.ucla.edu X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.2 X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:41:46 GMT In article <199408292034.AA17366@ponyexpress.princeton.edu> Jeffrey Yuan, yuan@PHOENIX.PRINCETON.EDU writes: >Yes, your friend is quite a noble person to do biochemistry on worms. Once a >upon a time, I also did some biochemistry on worms and also found getting large >quantities of worms to be troublesome. However, I did speak to several people >at Merck in Jim Schaeffer's group (he is in the gazette) who actively do >biochemistry on C. elegans to find out how they got large quantities of worms. >They used a 300 liter fermenter (!!!) to grow up large batches of worms. >However, to seed the fermenter they started out with over 14 liters of just >starved liquid cultures ( not a trivial task in itself). Anyway, people in Jim >Schaeffer's group might be of assistance. If your friend (or anyone else) has >any questions (or secrets) on how to grow large batches of worms I would love to >hear about them and will post any bits of info to the Net. > > >Jeffrey Yuan A good refernce on this by Gbewonyo, et al. appeared in _Bio/Technology (1994) vol. 12, pp.51-54. The authors developed a multi-step protocol in which they were finally able to harvest 500 grams of worms from a 150-liter bioreactor. They got to 150 L by starting off with 50 plates, which they then used to innoculate 20 liters, which in turn was used to innoculate 150 L... I don't know of any simpler way to get large quantities of worms. I was able to get 3-4 grams per liter of liquid culture following standard protocols. Ron Kagan ********************************************************************** "My Kindness is not random, and nothing senseless was ever beautiful." - J. Zabriskie ********************************************************************** Ron Kagan rkagan@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu .