From owner-drosophila@net.bio.net Tue May 24 23:00:00 1994 Newsgroups: bionet.drosophila Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!iitmax!garfinkl From: garfinkl@iitmax.iit.edu (Mark D. Garfinkel) Subject: Re: Response to advertising (no biology content) Message-ID: <1994May25.151945.17224@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago References: <2ru1d0$ont@hsdndev.harvard.edu> <1994May25.124422.2038@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 25 May 94 15:19:45 GMT Lines: 57 In article <1994May25.124422.2038@midway.uchicago.edu> ecec@quads.uchicago.edu (Eric Cabot) writes: >In article <2ru1d0$ont@hsdndev.harvard.edu> >favis@RASCAL.MED.HARVARD.EDU writes: >>Greetings Netters, >> I would like to encourage everyone to send their favorite Drosophila >>sequence to the individual responsible for posting the thigh cream ad. [...] > >I think that everybody should follow their own conscience on this one. > [much deleted] I agree with Eric that encouraging mass e-mailbombing is not "in good taste." I also disagree with his decision to send an "obscene" message criticizing the inappropriate post. Obscenity, in the usual meaning of the word, I feel, only compounds the offense. The usual customary Usenet response to inappropriate postings is simply to hit the 'n' key! Remember that, in a threaded newsreader program, the reader selects interesting articles based on subject line. *We* control the extent to which our time is wasted by inappropriate postings. The alternative action for egregious violations is to send a strongly, yet politely, worded criticism by e-mail to the poster, and to "root" and to "postmaster" at the offending poster's machine. Be sure to append a copy of the inappropriate or offending message. On most computer systems, "root" and/or "postmaster" are the account names used by the system's administrator. He/she will take appropriate action, up to & including removing the offending user's account. For more information about net-etiquette, including guidelines on what constitutes appropriate use of Usenet and on how to deal with offending e-mail and/or postings, users ought to read relevant posts in news.announce.newusers. Newsgroups such as news.admin.misc, news.admin.policy, and alt.current-events.net-abuse have ongoing discussions of specific cases, including April's highly publicized "Green Card Lawyers" and this week's "thigh cream" poster. In the case of the thigh cream poster, someone reported in news.admin.misc that his account has already been disabled. Apparently the issue is not whether commercial advertising belongs on Usenet. For example, bionet.jobs exists solely for the purpose of posting positions wanted & positions vacant in the biological sciences, and postdoc-offered postings occasionally appear in other bionet.* groups. In addition, there is a biz.* hierarchy that is supposed to be solely advertising (how many sites actually receive it is beside the point). The issues are whether the advertiser posts the message in newsgroups appropriate for the product/service offered, whether the advertiser violates any legally binding agreement with his network-access provider, and whether the advertiser's use of software to repeatedly post the same message to hundreds or thousands of unrelated newsgroups (a practice called "spamming") constitutes unfair/excessive use of network services. Mark -- Mark D. Garfinkel (e-mail: garfinkl@iitmax.acc.iit.edu) My views are my own, which is why they're copyright (c) 1994 .