From owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Mon Apr 30 18:15:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F44F17B5A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:15:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E55517B0C for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:15:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B863B17B5A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:15:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA05422 for biophys-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:15:01 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f Message-ID: <3AED9F76.CDE10BD6@mediaone.net> From: George Hammond X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.athiesm,alt.sci.physics,alt.talk.creationism,bionet.biophysics,harvard.course.physics11a.q-a,sci.bio.paleontology,sci.physics,talk.atheism Subject: Re: The "Science" of John Boatwright References: <3ae7e476_2@news01.one.net.au> <3AE81A39.DCB403E7@mediaone.net> <3AE84A63.91AF7B61@ozone.ch> <3AE879D7.DE3494E1@mediaone.net> <3ae8b06a.109420557@nntp.we.mediaone.net> <3AE8B9E2.A73DB51B@mediaone.net> <1127_988344536@GANDALF> <3AE9B280.8406B3B2@mediaone.net> <3AEADE18.6CDCEC04@mediaone.net> <3aeafab8.259537105@nntp.we.mediaone.net> <3AEB1B0F.5D8C32D3@mediaone.net> <3AEC8193.FA637652@mediaone.net> <3AEC80E6.B2458DB@hvc.rr.com> <3AEC975E.37157E09@mediaone.net> <3AECB09B.83C68B85@mindspring.com> <3AED2DAD.810FE326@mediaone.net> <1103_988647178@GANDALF> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 115 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:14:42 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net Organization: Road Runner To: biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Gromit wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:09:18 GMT, George Hammond wrote: > > Mark E. Daly wrote: > > > > > PS: I find it funny that a master degree in Physics is writing about > > > Psychology word associations. You do know that English and all languages > > > have no mathematical bases at all. Let me take a guess, you can't get a > > > job or accepted into any reputable school. > > > > [Hammond] > > Too bad you're not intelligent enough to understand Factor Analysis, > > or physicist enough to understand that FACTOR ANALYSIS is the > > only known scientific method that can actually prove the existence > > of "Gawd". > > You have a BS in physics... apparently you have half a brain... > > half a brain is apparently not enough. > > Proof by logical fallacy. If your proof of a "Gawd" where that reliable why the abuse > of these fallacies. [Hammond] There are no fallicies. Don't be an idiot, I'm a graduate physicist, I know what a scientific proof is and what it isn't... I don't need any Philosophy jerk giving me amateur lectures on Logic, Posterior Analytics or any other such nonsense. You can't attack a major scientific theory involving Psychometry, Factor Analysis and Relativity with a can opener like "the rules of logic and set theory".... you might as well go up against an Atomic Bomb with a bow and arrow. > > > Any competent physicist can see that if you take all 4,000 adjectives > > in the dictionary (in any language) that refer to human personality, > > and administer them as a self report checklist to 20,000 people, and > > compute the 4000x4000 correlation matrix, and find that the 13 eigenvectors > > of that real symmetric matrix form a GEOMETRIC CUBE in eigenvector space > > ..... that that is a SIGNIFICANT and MEANINGFUL hard science discovery. > > Why? [Hammond] If you were a competent scientist you would know why. But for a rank amateur like you let us just say it is "statistically significant" at the p=.001 level. In other words, there is only 1 chance in 1000 it could be an accident. Therefore, it represents a REAL PHYSICAL FACT. Actually of course, your question is simply too stupid to even deserve an answer. I don't think I'll be answering much more of it. > > > I'm physicist enough to recognize it, and i'm not going to sit here and > > listen to some candyass no nothing tell me different. > > Science has KNOWN about this empirical fact for 50 years, and they > > couldn't figure out WHY a CUBE EXISTED until i came along and told them. > > Aha, so it's not really proof then? [Hammond] Hey don't go cutsie on me just because you've discovered I'm big enough to kick your ass scientifically and intellectually. If you can't insult me, why don't you look for a mark somewhere else... there are plenty of abusable people around. Why don't you just politely bow out and disappear and go talk to some other amateurs. > > > THE HUMAN BRAIN IS CUBIC for chrissakes. do you think a bunch of research > > psychologists are going to figure that out... NO, it takes a PHYSICIST > > to recognize it.... and I've discovered it and published it in the > > peer reviewed academic literature (Hamond 1994). > > And? [Hammond] Still insisting on going cutsie... you must love to get bitch slapped. > > > NOW, it is only a trivial ONE STEP from there to a scientific proof of > > the existence of GAWD.... and I'm the one who has discovered it. > > :-) [Hammond] >:- > > > One of these days you aggravated horses asses are going to wake up and > > realize you're sitting there ridiculing a serious and competent > > scientist and acting like a bunch of assholes.... simply because > > "GAWD" is too much for your middle class American brains to appreciate. > > ut let me remind you 5-Billion people out there don't think it's > > a goddamn joke. > > Your language suggests that it could very well be a joke indeed. [Hammond] St. Paul addresses you- "Thou fool..", I Corinthians 15:36 I don't think that was very polite either, but history has judged it to be the gospel truth. Hypocrites, pedants, synchophants, and the overpriveleged in general do not like the sound of the truth.... even scientific truth. -- BE SURE TO VISIT MY WEBSITE, BELOW: ----------------------------------------------------------- George Hammond, M.S. Physics Email: ghammond@mediaone.net Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------- .