From owner-metabolic-reg@net.bio.net Wed May 22 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: mdb1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Martin Brand) Newsgroups: bionet.metabolic-reg Subject: reply to Denise Dagnino Date: 23 May 1996 12:48:07 +0100 Lines: 43 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <4o1j9n$8hl@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: btk-mca@dl.ac.uk Denise You can't really conclude that steps in a pathway beyond a certain metabolite have no flux control just because adding the metabolite increases the flux, so you can't conclude that steps before the metabolite must have most of the control: it depends on the relative elasticities of the groups of reactions before and after your metabolite to the concentration of that metabolite. If you choose to use gene expression to measure control coefficients, you need to be aware that the numbers you get refer to the effect of the gene manipulation on the flux with a long relaxation time, and this is not neccessarily the same as the effect of the enzyme on the flux with a short relaxation time. So if the gene expression causes secondary unidentified changes in the system (such as consequential changes in the expression of other genes) these changes appear with gene manipulation but not with direct inhibition of the enzyme or from elasticities. Which type of flux control coefficient you want to know is a matter of choice, but they may differ. To avoid gene manipulation you can either inhibit your pet enzyme and see what happens, or do the analysis by measuring elasticities and solving the relevant equations. I think you can't make a metabolite a parameter without altering the nature of the pathway under investigation: it is now (at least) two pathways, one leading to your clamped metabolite and the other leading away from it. But you can solve the control around your metabolite by measuring the relative changes in the fluxes in these pathways when you raise the metabolite slightly, since the flux changes are related to the elasticity ratios and the control coefficients. Martin Brand Martin D. Brand Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge Tennis Court Road, Cambridge CB2 1QW UK phone: +44 1223 333648, fax: +44 1223 333345 Internet: http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/dept/biochem/brand/ .