From owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sat Apr 28 22:47:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C831317A7B for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:47:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103DA17A89 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:47:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7708B17B30 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id WAA00857 for biophys-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:57 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f Message-ID: <3AEB3C89.7B4CFCDC@mediaone.net> From: George Hammond X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsgroups: alt.agnosticism,alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual,alt.sci.physics,alt.talk.creationism,bionet.biophysics,sci.bio.paleontology,sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,talk.atheism Subject: Re: The "Science" of John Boatwright References: <3ae7e476_2@news01.one.net.au> <3AE81A39.DCB403E7@mediaone.net> <3AE84A63.91AF7B61@ozone.ch> <3AE879D7.DE3494E1@mediaone.net> <3ae8b06a.109420557@nntp.we.mediaone.net> <3AE8B9E2.A73DB51B@mediaone.net> <1127_988344536@GANDALF> <3AE9B280.8406B3B2@mediaone.net> <3AEADE18.6CDCEC04@mediaone.net> <3AEB1938.15673102@mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 71 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:46:40 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net Organization: Road Runner To: biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Joe Galenko wrote: > > > [Hammond] > > I said "the Universe as we know it would cease to > > exist". My answer is true "by definition", since if > > all men were dead, there would be no one to "know it". > > > > [Hammond] > > If the Universe "as we know it" only exists because Man is > > alive to "know it", then ergo, the Universe "as we know it" > > came into existence when Man came into existence. > > But what do you mean by "we?" If all humans died tomorrow you're saying > that the Universe as "we" (humans) know it would cease to exist. But how > about everything else in the Universe? The Universe would still exist as > "they" know it. .... snip > Or how about this angle...if all humans on Earth died instantly, why would > the Univese as "we" know it cease to exist?...the Universe as "we" know it > would still exist, but it's just that "we" would no longer be around to > experience it. ... snip > You're basically DEFINING it from the start that a Universe CAN'T exist > unless "we" (which is seemingly defined as at least one human being on the > planet Earth) also exist. .... snip [Hammond] Look... as I've explained elsewhere, you can't learn the theory of Relativity by asking a thousand riddles and having them answered. You actually have to sit down and READ the theory of Relativity. They're's no escaping it. No professor of Relativity would sit down with some argumentative semiliterate hick and spend 10 years arguing conundrums, enigmas, dilemmas and riddles in Relativity with someone who is too lazy to sit down and study the theory. By the same token, I'm not going to sit here and argue "Riddles O'Gawd" with some lazy jackass who is too disinterested to even read the scientific explanation of God that has already been discovered (on my website). OBVIOUSLY, if you're not curious enough to actually read it.... then you're just some argumentative jackass who likes to get on the internet and chit chat about "Riddles O'Gawd". Your not worth talking to. Do you know how disgusting and boring it is to listen to all those jackass nuts on sci.physics.relativity who wouldn't make the faintest effort to study Relativity, but will sit there all day arguing with other jackasses that "relativity can't be right" and then proceeding to give some jackass elementary misconception of it and arguing about it for months. I know better.... you're simply talking to people who have no business discussing relativity. And there are likewise a bazillion more jackasses who have no business discussing "Gawd". and you're talking to someone who knows it... and I'm not about to sit here and shoot the shit with some amateur who is only concerned with hearing himself talk and looking like a bigshot on the Internet. I'll only discuss "Creation", "Miracles", "the age of the World", "the God of Animals", "Biblical Exegesis", etc. etc. with someone who has made an honest attempt to comprehend the basic discovered scientific explanation of God reported on my website. It is ONLY within the framework of that (discovered and proven) scientific explanation of god that any of these riddles can be explained. -- BE SURE TO VISIT MY WEBSITE, BELOW: ----------------------------------------------------------- George Hammond, M.S. Physics Email: ghammond@mediaone.net Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------- .