From owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sat Apr 28 18:22:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212E517AA4 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:22:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7876C17AA9 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:22:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236FC17AA4 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:22:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA18552 for biophys-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:22:00 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: redbai@mediaone.net (Von Bailey) X-Newsgroups: alt.agnosticism,alt.astronomy,alt.atheism,alt.athiesm,alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual,alt.sci.physics,alt.talk.creationism,bionet.biophysics,harvard.course.physics11a.q-a,sci.bio.paleontology,sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,talk.atheism Subject: Re: The "Science" of John Boatwright Message-ID: <3aeafab8.259537105@nntp.we.mediaone.net> References: <3ae7e476_2@news01.one.net.au> <3AE81A39.DCB403E7@mediaone.net> <3AE84A63.91AF7B61@ozone.ch> <3AE879D7.DE3494E1@mediaone.net> <3ae8b06a.109420557@nntp.we.mediaone.net> <3AE8B9E2.A73DB51B@mediaone.net> <1127_988344536@GANDALF> <3AE9B280.8406B3B2@mediaone.net> <3AEADE18.6CDCEC04@mediaone.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 46 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:19:39 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net Organization: Road Runner To: biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:03:46 GMT, George Hammond wrote: >Eros wrote: >> >> >> > > > > I went to the web site to. It's garbage >> and unless you already assume there is a god it proves nothing. >> > > > >> > > > [Hammond] >> > > > You aren't scientifically qualifed to repair automobiles >> > > > much less evaluate a scientific proof of God based on >> > > > Factor Analysis and Relativity. You're a pile of puke, >> > > > nevermind garbage. >> > > >> > > Nice ad hominems and insults George. What part of the scientific method >> > > are you applying here? >> > >> > [Hammond] >> > Moral superiority, General intelligence, human experience >> > and greater learning. In short, a knowledge of the scientific >> > explanation of God. >> >> Really! I'm glad you said "general" intelligence. Since you are so learned >> and experienced in this so-called "knowledge of the scientific explanation >> of God", perhaps you'll be able to answer this simple question;- >> Without refering to the Bible, what is the single most compelling piece of >> evidence that DIRECTLY supports the hypothesis of Divine Creation? > >[Hammond] >No problem: >The fact that if all men died tomorrow the Universe >as we know it, would cease to exist. > Did you ever consider the fact that there were no 'men' at the time of the dinosaur and granting this (if of course you do) did the universe exist then? von http://people.we.mediaone.net/redbai/home.htm There is no conversation that I can have that threatens my reality and I don't see how anyone can live with such a precarious state of mind. .