From owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Tue May 8 20:51:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BD517A5E for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:51:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7FC17B27 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:51:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D317A97 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:51:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id UAA06711 for biophys-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:51:08 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f Message-ID: <3AF84FCE.FE628ED@mediaone.net> From: George Hammond X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics,bionet.biophysics,harvard.course.physics11a.q-a,sci.bio.paleontology,talk.atheism Subject: Re: The "Science" of John Boatwright References: <3ae8b06a.109420557@nntp.we.mediaone.net> <3AEDEF7F.7E7B31E5@mediaone.net> <3AEE46F7.12E64920@mediaone.net> <1103_988728794@GANDALF> <3AEEF3A9.F1C8A782@mediaone.net> <1104_988764931@GANDALF> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:49:34 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net Organization: Road Runner To: biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-biophys@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Ghost In The Machine wrote: > >> > Its the simple properties of eigenvectors. EV's are orthogonal ("right > >> > angles") and by simple scaling could be made to be "equal" in magnitude > >> > hence "cubic" in however many dimensions. > >> > >> [Hammond] > >> Wrong again amateur guesser. You'll really have to guess harder. > >> the 13-symmetry axes of a cube are NOT ORTHOGONAL for chrissakes. > >> neither are the 13-eigenvectors of Psychometry.... they are rotated > >> to "oblique simple structure" using maximum hyperplane count. > >> You don't know what you're talking about... PCA, Rotation, > >> Simple Structure, Hyperplane Count, etc. etc. are mathematical > >> physics subjects light years beyond your grade school education. > >> get outta here. > > > >If this is supposed to convince people that you have a serious > >scientific argument then I have to disappoint you. Such behavior > >of ad hominem is not very scientific nor very Christian. IMHO of course. > > However, his argument -- or maybe it's Dave's -- stripped of > ad homs, with respect to cube symmetry is in fact correct; > one set, for example, goes through two face centers (3); another > through two edge centers (6); still another through opposite > corners (4). Take any two of different classes and you'll > find that they don't meet at right angles. (Two of the same class, > at least for faces and edges, will meet at right angles, if one gives > it thought. The corners, I'm not sure about.) > > How that observation proves (or disproves!) God, or relates > to "the 13-eigenvectors of Psychometry", I've no idea. First > I've heard of Psychometry, in fact. > [Hammond] Why don't you buy a CB radio? Whatru doing on a physics discussion group? -- BE SURE TO VISIT MY WEBSITE, BELOW: ----------------------------------------------------------- George Hammond, M.S. Physics Email: ghammond@mediaone.net Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------- .