From owner-biophysics@net.bio.net Mon Oct 26 22:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.corridex.com!newsfeed.wli.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: teodorico@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.med.veterinary,bionet.biophysics,bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: BRAIN POLICE Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:24:22 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 63 Message-ID: <7137c6$ldv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <70g9v5$u80$2@news2.acs.oakland.edu> <70iv5h$r88$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es> <362D24C6.6A725F46@pop3.concentric.net> <362E634F.B082F881@pop3.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.57.171.175 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Oct 27 01:24:22 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 195.57.171.175 Xref: biosci bionet.biophysics:4490 bionet.neuroscience:25335 In article <362E634F.B082F881@pop3.concentric.net>, kkollins@concentric.net wrote: > CLARIFICATION: > > if it's not clear that I was referring only to prosthetic devices (not tissue > implants), that's what I was, in fact, referring to. ken Will you have to establish a third category? The following reply was originally sent on october the 21st/22nd: kkollins@pop3.concentric.net escribió en mensaje <362D24C6.6A725F46@pop3.concentric.net>... >While not saying that it's not possible to implant stuff in the brain (there are >even now successes with artificial cochlea, etc.), it's not possible to >"re-engineer" the brain from without because everything that the brain does >constitutes its own re-engineering of itself... so, if something lacking that >plasticity is stuffed in-there, that thing will be as an island of >non-plasticity that just sits there, all "static" (not itself plastic), stealing >what would, otherwise, be optimized plasticity. The aim of the implants we are talking about is not of "re-engineer" the brain, but transmitting the data of the brain waves into a computer which deciphers the thought patterns of the target. External manipulation of behaviour and thought processes can be done externally without the need of brain implants, by pulsed EM at concrete frequencies or simply by brainwashing. >It's one thing to work to develop prosthetics with respect to organic damage. >It's quite another to invade fully-functional systems. While the former has a >purpose, and possible benefits, the latter does not... Who is talking about possible benefits for the victim?! Here you'll find a letter sent to the former pr. minister John Major by a Swedish organization of human rights, plus two testimonies -one of them related to the above document: http://www.mk.net/~mcf/nt-major.htm http://www.mk.net/~mcf/ntumba.htm http://www.mk.net/~mcf/naesdoc.htm I would also strongly recommend you to visit this site: http://www.mk.net/~mcf/ and/or read this report: http://www.mk.net/~mcf/welsbook.htm T. Mouton -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own .