--- Log opened Sun Oct 02 00:00:16 2005 00:15:16-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:23:32-!- xhrl [n=ThomasW@S0106000f3d5d5bed.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #fink 00:39:47-!- xhrl [n=ThomasW@S0106000f3d5d5bed.vs.shawcable.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:30:05-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 01:30:14-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 03:29:35-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.138.242] has joined #fink 03:35:17-!- spiral [n=spiral@84.6.132.63] has joined #fink 03:36:06< spiral> hi 03:41:43-!- project2501 [n=sadkjfha@144.110.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #fink 03:43:16< project2501> im trying to install svn 03:45:30< project2501> but it wants me to install python 03:45:37< project2501> but i already have python installed 03:46:09< project2501> but i didnt install it via fink 03:46:41< project2501> if i install it via fink (over the top of the old one i guess) is that going to fuck with python? 03:47:20< project2501> they will be in different dir's i guess ( the current one is in /system/library/framework/.....) 04:08:32-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-63-234.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 04:48:54-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.138.242] has joined #fink 05:02:20< pogma> project2501: it won't interfere with your system installed python (/me answers ancient question) 05:05:12-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.138.242] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:05:26-!- shreyas is now known as shres 05:12:40< project2501> but my path will be looking at /sw/bin and /usr/bin 05:12:54< project2501> does it just pick from which ever comes first in the path variable? 05:13:05< project2501> i couldnt find anything about this in the faq by the way 05:13:17< project2501> but i didnt really know what i was looking for 05:15:31< gecko2> project2501: it will pick the first matching application in the path 05:16:01< gecko2> and when /sw/bin is the first, then it will the python from /sw/bin/python 05:19:19< pogma> as far as I know /sw/bin/python is not required and is simply a symlink to /sw/bin/python-2.X, so you can probably 'fink remove python' ant the end of the whole thing anyway 05:30:10-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 05:30:16-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 05:45:20< project2501> oh okay 05:45:32< project2501> i might as well keep it there if it doesnt break anything 05:45:41< project2501> save recompiling it later 05:45:43< project2501> for something else 05:45:50< project2501> or when i break subversion.... 06:32:35-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.138.242] has quit ["I am sleepy"] 06:50:22-!- nkuttler [n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-195-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #fink 06:56:09-!- Fang [n=Fang@2002:53c5:49e0:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #fink 07:35:22-!- HenkPoley [n=henk@poley.xs4all.nl] has joined #fink 07:49:48-!- Bart-- [n=hideout@p5080E56B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fink 07:53:30< Bart--> howdy 07:53:38< Bart--> anybody here who has problems with airport under 10.4.2? 07:53:57-!- HenkPoley [n=henk@poley.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 07:59:26-!- rajesh [n=rajesh@pcp09354616pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 08:09:10-!- rajesh [n=rajesh@pcp09354616pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [""bbiab""] 08:23:49< mcp> Bart--: nope 08:46:03-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-164-237.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 08:48:39-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 08:48:45-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 08:53:05-!- Fang [n=Fang@2002:53c5:49e0:1:0:0:0:1] has quit ["I've planned on living forever. So far, so good."] 09:02:33-!- project2501 [n=sadkjfha@144.110.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit ["This computer has been abandoned and such, is crying its self into depressive sleep."] 09:16:54-!- rajesh [n=rajesh@pcp09354616pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 09:22:10-!- asari [n=asari@p2204-ipbf509marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #Fink 09:28:11-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 09:30:12-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit [Broken pipe] 09:30:18-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 09:38:55< Albie> hmms.. 09:39:04< Albie> fink doesn't include apache+mod_perl2 yet? 09:52:11-!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has joined #fink 09:59:48-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:01:00-!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:02:38-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 10:10:33-!- RangerAw1y [n=ranger@cpe-065-190-205-196.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 10:19:43-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-164-237.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:25:39-!- RangerAway [n=ranger@cpe-065-190-205-196.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:25:42-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:31:15-!- Bart-- [n=hideout@p5080E56B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:39:34-!- spiral [n=spiral@84.6.132.63] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:45:01-!- dmalloc [n=Harlekin@tk-proxy1.univie.ac.at] has joined #fink 10:46:03-!- dmalloc [n=Harlekin@tk-proxy1.univie.ac.at] has left #fink ["Noner"] 13:19:57-!- gopherd_ [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-d503721b9987baec] has joined #fink 13:19:57-!- Topic for #fink: Have a question? Check the FAQ: http://fink.sf.net/faq || Latest Installers: 0.6.4 (10.2), 0.7.2 (10.3), 0.8.0 (10.4) || Fink 0.24.10: Cameloparadalis 13:19:57-!- Topic set by akh [] [Thu Aug 25 10:00:59 2005] 13:19:57[Users #fink] 13:19:57[ Airo ] [ cmeme ] [ jack- ] [ Melian ] [ rajesh ] 13:19:57[ asari ] [ emp ] [ JosephSpiros] [ muesli ] [ RangerRick] 13:19:57[ bkn ] [ eno-away] [ kane-xs ] [ Murr ] [ RLD_osx ] 13:19:57[ BleedAway] [ Erik____] [ KraMer ] [ newmanbe] [ runelind ] 13:19:57[ brendan ] [ gecko2 ] [ lisppaste ] [ niksie ] [ sid77 ] 13:19:57[ cirdan ] [ gopherd ] [ mcp ] [ nkuttler] [ spiral ] 13:19:57[ Clef__ ] [ gopherd_] [ mdmonk_ ] [ pnorman ] [ swix__ ] 13:19:57[ cls ] [ gzl ] [ megahal ] [ pogma ] [ usataway ] 13:19:57-!- Irssi: #fink: Total of 40 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 40 normal] 13:19:57-!- [freenode-info] Welcome Tor users! Please stop by #tor to compare notes and to report any freenode Tor problems. 13:19:59-!- Channel #fink created Sun Aug 3 17:57:20 2003 13:20:09-!- newmanbe_ [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-14df87562618419e] has joined #fink 13:20:23-!- Irssi: Join to #fink was synced in 28 secs 13:30:09-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 13:30:18-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 13:37:49-!- gopherd [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-b04cfd64cfab4d40] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:37:51-!- You're now known as gopher 13:38:32-!- You're now known as gopherd 13:46:54< cirdan> yo 13:51:00-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-d9fdd627cee326a7] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:51:06-!- newmanbe_ is now known as newmanbe 13:51:08-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 13:51:14-!- sid77_ [n=sid77@host-84-222-60-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 13:51:23-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-63-234.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:59:13< cirdan> hey v 13:59:15< cirdan> vasi 13:59:22< vasi> hiya 14:01:02< newmanbe> Does anyone know by chance if Fink works on NetBSD? 14:02:21< vasi> newmanbe, i expect some things would be weird on a non-darwin system 14:02:46< vasi> you could probably take a couple of days hacking on it, and end up with something that works 14:03:19< vasi> i was actually thinking of testing out NetBSD/ppc just for the hell of it, so if you do want to try getting it working, gimme a yell 14:04:49< cirdan> someone was gonna port it to solaris 14:04:58< cirdan> dunno if they ever did 14:07:09< newmanbe> vasi: I only have access to NetBSD/i386. 14:07:26< newmanbe> Feel free to make a driver for AirPort Exterem, and I'd help you. :) 14:08:00< vasi> newmanbe, did you see that somebody got AE working under linux, by routing through MacOnLinux? crazy shit 14:08:20< vasi> cirdan, yeah never heard back from that solaris dude 14:08:37< vasi> apparently solaris/ppc is happening soon, so maybe i'll try that instead of netbsd :-) 14:08:55-!- niksie [n=nkist@c3eea041d.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:10:17< newmanbe> vasi: Yes, I saw that. 14:10:47< newmanbe> But that requires you to run X11 more likely that not. 14:10:54< newmanbe> And I prefer the console. :) 14:11:08< cirdan> heh 14:14:25< vasi> *sigh* 14:14:46< vasi> do you also abhor curses, or is that close enough to a cmdline? :-P 14:15:18-!- baba [n=baba@YahooBB218128100003.bbtec.net] has joined #fink 14:16:28-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-36-221.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 14:18:56< cirdan> hmm 14:19:00< cirdan> !seen dmacks 14:19:00< Melian> dmacks was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 1d 20h 29m 19s ago, saying: 'Or xerox+snailmail if your into that sort of thing:)'. 14:20:32-!- sid77_ is now known as sid77 14:21:40< Albie> I think I've asked before, but nobody answered... is there an apache2+mod_perl build using fink? 14:24:44< RangerRick> no idea 14:25:16-!- niksie [n=nkist@c3eea041d.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #fink 14:25:37< cirdan> yoyo RangerRick 14:27:20< Albie> accordingly with apropos there is not such thing :( 14:27:39-!- drm [n=drm@m810f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #fink 14:27:53< cirdan> hey drm 14:28:11< drm> hey cirdan...i heard you're leaving soon? 14:28:29< RangerRick> howdy cirdan 14:28:37< cirdan> sending i left 14:28:40< cirdan> i left 14:28:45< drm> ah :) 14:28:53< cirdan> almost there 14:29:25< cirdan> sneding dmackls the cert. of incorperation nowl... 14:29:25< cirdan> now... 14:29:32< drm> cirdan: i'm gonna take over your libmpfr package, if that's ok... needs to be maintained in conjunction with my gmp package 14:29:55< cirdan> yeah, thats fine 14:30:02< cirdan> someone emailed me and i said go ahead and take it over 14:30:25< drm> yeah, well, they don't know what they are doing so i'm taking it from them :/ 14:31:07< cirdan> hehe 14:31:44< drm> so how long are you "gone"? sounds like you might be online anyway? 14:31:50< cirdan> one month 14:32:03< cirdan> if there is cell access + power i can get online sometimes 14:32:08< drm> yeah 14:32:24 * cirdan hugs tmobile 14:32:50< drm> tmobile does not offer contracts in north carolina 14:33:10< cirdan> heh 14:33:11< cirdan> sucks 14:33:22< cirdan> when i was there it was using cingular towers 14:33:25< cirdan> ok, i gg 14:33:27< cirdan> ttyl 14:33:28< newmanbe> vasi: Curses is closed enough to command line. 14:33:49< newmanbe> Goodbye. 14:33:58< vasi> cirdan, going? 14:34:01< newmanbe> s/closed/close/ 14:34:26 * newmanbe tries to imagine >40 IRC channels without curses. 14:35:15< drm> bye 14:35:15 * drm tries to imagine >40 brains, one to interact with each channel 14:35:30< vasi> drm, do we have the dmalloc/finkmirrors situation sorted? 14:36:15< drm> vasi: no... cirdan is sending dmalloc a copy of the legal documents about fink, inc., and we hope that the dns provider will turn it over to us when they see these 14:36:21< drm> i meant, sending dmacks, not dmalloc 14:36:44< vasi> oh and also, hi :-) 14:36:53< drm> hi vasi 14:37:08< vasi> too much school puts me into dive-into-business mode, *sigh* 14:37:54< vasi> reason i was asking is cuz i just saw that GULUS (the linux user group for a nearby town) started mirroring...get this...GNU-Darwin! 14:38:04< vasi> so i figure they must have space to waste :-) 14:38:12< drm> vasi: i ran across fred sanchez's blog last night 14:38:12< drm> he had a long post after wwdc about the challenges for open source with dual architectures 14:38:12< drm> actually, he was advocating build fat binaries 14:38:24< drm> guelph? 14:38:28< vasi> Sherbrooke 14:38:46< drm> i'm trying to figure out what the G stands for 14:38:51< vasi> Groupe 14:38:51< newmanbe> Is there a GNU+Linux distribution that actually uses fat binaries? 14:39:12< drm> ah, en francais...bien sur 14:39:16< vasi> Groupe d'utilisateurs Linux de l'université Sherbrooke 14:39:25< vasi> (that's just a guess, but it's likely right) 14:39:35< vasi> newmanbe: i don't think ELF supports fat-ness 14:39:45< vasi> !seen miga 14:39:45< Melian> miga <~miga@easyconnect2121138-139.clients.easynet.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 83d 5h 46m 52s ago, saying: 'There seems to be some explanation in info files.'. 14:39:54< vasi> damn, miga's still gone? 14:40:14< vasi> if i want to bug GULUS, i'll want support from someone with much better french than mine 14:40:47< newmanbe> If it is okay for GNU+Linux, it's way more than Mac OS X deserves. ;) 14:40:53 * vasi sends summoning brain-waves 14:42:17-!- miga [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-89c33591977382ed] has joined #fink 14:42:24< miga> Ta 'da! 14:42:25< drm> newmanbe: the big problem is that libtool doesn't know from fat 14:42:36-!- miga is now known as newermanbe 14:42:45-!- newermanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-89c33591977382ed] has left #fink [] 14:42:48< vasi> nice try newmanbe :-P 14:42:57< vasi> according to Miguel Icaza, "I personally, do not believe that ELF could be extended in a 14:42:57< vasi> compatible way to include support for fat binaries." 14:43:06< vasi> so i don't think linux has ever done it 14:43:13< newmanbe> Translation, Fat is bad. 14:44:52< drm> no, just that fat isn't for linux 14:45:04< newmanbe> s/linux/*\./ 14:45:06< newmanbe> :) 14:45:45< drm> i believe that the unix-workalike with the biggest installed base is: darwin 14:45:53< baba> yo miga, long time no see 14:46:07< drm> baba: that wasn't really miga 14:46:07< newmanbe> Darwin works? 14:46:18< baba> yeah, i guessed so 14:46:19< newmanbe> 14:42:17 -!- miga [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-89c33591977382ed] has joined #fink 14:46:23< vasi> drm, depends on whether you count NT as 'unix' just because it's certified POSIX 14:46:29< drm> darwin, as in "os x" 14:46:33< drm> vasi: ah, good point 14:46:54< vasi> silly UNIX certification people 14:46:55-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-60-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/"] 14:47:20< vasi> woot, java 1.5 is available for linux ppc...been long enough 14:50:08-!- drm [n=drm@m810f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:20:59-!- baba [n=baba@YahooBB218128100003.bbtec.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 15:22:51-!- spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:23:09-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-36-221.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 15:28:41-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-36-221.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 15:44:55< gecko2> http://ircstats.freeforge.net/fink-stats.html <-- #fink channel stats 15:51:12< newmanbe> I didn't know I talked so much here. :) 15:51:24< newmanbe> !lart newmanbe for using HTTP 15:51:25 * Melian forces newmanbe to use Outlook Express for using HTTP 15:51:34< newmanbe> No! Not that! 15:51:41< gecko2> hehe 15:53:27< gecko2> looks like you got much thinks to tell 15:54:14< newmanbe> No, I credit it all to helping the users of Fink. ;) 15:54:24< mcp> is there any fucking reason for 10.4 to freeze up when I add a firewall rule blocking tcp 135-139???! 15:54:40 * newmanbe washes mcp's mouth with soap. 15:55:15< gecko2> !lart vasi for talking to much 15:55:16 * Melian installs PocketPC on vasi's PDA for talking to much 15:55:29< gecko2> *g* 15:55:32< mcp> :)) 15:55:40< vasi> heh 15:55:56< vasi> TheSin used to dominate FinkBots ratings 15:56:24< newmanbe> And now we are rand-irc-less and FinkBot-less! 15:57:06 * gecko2 could place a MacHelper if wanted 15:57:19< newmanbe> Place a what what? 15:57:41< gecko2> MacHelper = my eggdrop 15:57:46< gecko2> currently not online 15:57:48< newmanbe> Ah. 16:00:35< gecko2> currently we got 2 bots 16:00:38< gecko2> lisppaste and megahal 16:00:53< gecko2> ohh 16:00:53< newmanbe> And cmeme and gopherd. 16:00:56< gecko2> and Melian 16:01:13< newmanbe> But those two don't talk much. 16:01:37< gecko2> cmeme, gopherd, Melian, lisppaste and megahal oO 16:01:53< gecko2> as long as we got more users then bots... =) 16:01:54-!- eno-away is now known as eno 16:01:55< newmanbe> The first two are logger bots. 16:02:09< vasi> maybe everyone here is a bot, and i'm the only real person 16:02:17< vasi> you could be bots! 16:02:18< gecko2> vasi: hehe 16:02:21< newmanbe> vasi: Naw, don't be silly. 16:02:30< gopherd> vasi: I am the one true person. 16:02:36< gopherd> Besides newmabe of course. 16:02:36 * gecko2 can't remember that he's a bot 16:02:54< gecko2> the last time i look at i was a human 16:02:56< gecko2> =) 16:04:33-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-36-221.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:05:06< newmanbe> There is a simple test to determine whether someone is a bot or human; I will now use that test on you gecko2. 16:05:17< newmanbe> gecko2: What is better, HTTP or Gopher? 16:05:23< vasi> lol 16:05:26< gecko2> hrhr 16:05:48< gecko2> newmanbe: bothe aren't got 16:05:55< gecko2> sex is the good one 16:05:58< gecko2> =) 16:07:32< gecko2> newmanbe: :P 16:07:47< newmanbe> Hmm, non-existent. 16:07:55< newmanbe> That is the result of the test; goodbye, 16:07:56-!- niksie [n=nkist@c3eea041d.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 16:08:37< gecko2> hrhr 16:08:40< gecko2> newmanbe is the bot 16:08:52< gecko2> the real or bot testing bot 16:08:55< gecko2> =) 16:10:25< gecko2> hmm, the box where newmanbe is running is slow 16:10:35< gecko2> he needs much time for a response 16:10:37< gecko2> =) 16:10:44< newmanbe> Hmm? 16:10:55< newmanbe> Well, what if I don't want to respond? 16:11:46< gecko2> then i reconfigure you followed by a restart to make the new brain aktiv 16:11:47< gecko2> *g* 16:12:50< newmanbe> If my BIOS determined that the new brain did not like Gopher, it would not allow it to run. 16:13:59< newmanbe> Hmm, there 16:14:02 * gecko2 puts newmanbe in debug mode so his bios doesn't matter such thinks 16:14:04< gecko2> =) 16:14:19< newmanbe> 's a Java AirPort Base Station conigurator. 16:14:39< newmanbe> gecko2: That security mode is hard coded and cannot be disabled. 16:15:12 * gecko2 opens newmanbe to place a new bios chip in it 16:15:13< gecko2> =) 16:15:23< gecko2> that should remove the problem =) 16:15:36< newmanbe> You'd have to replace everything. 16:15:39< newmanbe> Even the wires know. 16:16:19 * gecko2 trashes the current newmanbe 16:16:34< gecko2> a new newmanbe is easier to use =) 16:16:37< newmanbe> rm: permission denied 16:17:21 * gecko2 sends newmanbe a SIGABRT 16:17:58 * newmanbe has been locked down. 16:18:00< newmanbe> Have a great day! 16:18:10< newmanbe> --The newmanbe developers 16:18:16< gecko2> hrhrhr 16:18:49 * gecko2 sends newmanbe a SIGTERM followed by a 15s delayed SIGKILL 16:19:38 * gopherd hears crickets chirping. 16:24:12-!- zizban [n=chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 16:25:02-!- RangerRick is now known as RangerAway 16:28:53< gecko2> hmmm 16:28:56< gecko2> cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: cvs pserver: cannot open /cvsroot/fink/CVSROOT/config: Input/output error 16:29:16< zizban> I have been having CVS issues today too 16:29:17< newmanbe> !blame SourceForge.net 16:29:17 * Melian blames cls for SourceForge.net and the end of life as we know it 16:29:17< zizban> must be SF 16:31:11< newmanbe> cls: You'll have to go. 16:33:06-!- megahal [i=foobar@ip-246-036.oberlin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:35:49< mcp> anyone knows how to change the default policy in osx's firewall beside using a shell script with an own firewall? 16:38:59< muesli> can i download the amarok patches manually somewhere? 16:41:23< newmanbe> muesli: You can check it out from CVS. 16:41:30< newmanbe> !tell muesli about viewcvs 16:45:01< muesli> thnx 16:46:40< muesli> uhm 16:46:50< muesli> where are the patches located in cvs?! :) 16:47:09< newmanbe> dists I think. 16:48:19< muesli> thnx, got it 17:04:57-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 17:30:07-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 17:30:16-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 18:18:03< mcp> xchat 2.4.5 is fucked up 18:18:21< zizban> via fink? 18:19:49< newmanbe> mcp: Still no need to swear. 18:24:31< mcp> zizban: yep, compiled clean but whereever I want to login I see a log entry: GARBAGE found blabla and then messages from the channels, but no channels open 18:24:41< zizban> ouch 18:24:45< zizban> report the bug to the maintainer 18:24:47< mcp> looks funny tho:) 18:24:51< mcp> yep, doing so atm 18:25:04 * zizban uses xchat 2.4.0 on Irix 18:29:03< gecko2> mcp: something between xchat 2.4.4 and 2.4.5 chaneged in the upstream version 18:29:14< gecko2> and the maintainer didn't noticed that =) 18:30:41< zizban> us maintainers aren't psychic 18:33:44< gecko2> i'm still at 2.4.4 until 2.4.5 works 18:35:42< zizban> I dont use xchat on mac os x 18:42:39< gecko2> i use it with finks xfree86 and xchat and apples quartz-wm 18:43:27< zizban> there is a Cocoa version y'know 18:43:57< gecko2> i know 18:44:03< gecko2> but i dislike it 18:44:14< zizban> me too 18:50:22-!- jake1 [n=catrin@pool-68-163-135-126.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #fink 18:50:32< mcp> the native xchat aqua takes 50% cpu almost all the time :) 18:50:58< jake1> really 18:51:01< jake1> hold on a sec 18:51:24< jake1> mine is taking less than 3 percent 18:51:34< jake1> it's actually varying 18:51:48< jake1> between 2.40% and 3% 18:51:59< mcp> funny 18:52:18< jake1> err... between 2.40% and 5% 18:52:19< jake1> sorry 18:52:29< jake1> maybe you just have a crappy CPU 18:52:30< mcp> once I used it, it took the same as yours but after 5-10 minutes uptime, it grows up to 50 and never decreased 18:52:38< jake1> :-\ 18:52:43< jake1> interesting 18:53:03< jake1> mine has been running all week and haven't noticed a difference 18:53:13< mcp> hmm, my 1,5ghz g4 isnt that crappy :) 18:53:24< gecko2> 18300 xchat 0.1% 4:53.89 1 29 0 0K 0K 23.5M 69.6M <-- hmm 18:53:28< gecko2> thats here 18:53:40< mcp> thats not xchat-aqua :) 18:53:43< jake1> ah... i'm running it on my G3s and G4s 18:53:44< gecko2> xchat for x11 18:54:01< jake1> and i dnt notice much of a difference betweeen them 18:54:21< mcp> 5857 xchat 0.4% 0:13.13 1 29 0 0K 0K 19.0M 58.1M 18:54:35< jake1> did/can you install Xchat Aqua from Source 18:54:48< mcp> you can build it from source, yes 18:54:59< jake1> did you do that? 18:55:02< mcp> no 18:55:06< jake1> :-\ 18:55:12< jake1> i dunno what to say then 18:55:38< jake1> USER % is 61% roughly 18:55:47< jake1> that is everything i am running 18:56:47< jake1> well system is about 22% 18:56:58< jake1> but i am burning a CD too 18:56:59< mcp> seems someone else also had this "bug": http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1227909&group_id=62257&atid=499969 18:58:07< jake1> i'm using X-Chat Aqua version 0.14.0 18:58:20< jake1> and i dnt have that problem 18:58:21< zizban> hmmm 18:58:29< jake1> on my emac G4 1.42GhZ 18:58:40< jake1> or on my G3 500Mhz laptop or iMac 18:58:44< mcp> jake1: then be happy :p 18:58:48< jake1> i am 18:59:10< jake1> what version was it that you were trying to run? 18:59:33< mcp> 0.14.0 18:59:42< jake1> hmmmm 18:59:43< jake1> interesting 19:01:06-!- nkuttler [n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-195-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:01:55< jake1> nutin on their page reporting the problem 19:02:03< jake1> nutin much on their page anyways 19:02:04< jake1> lol 19:39:59-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:44:34-!- akh__ [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 19:54:26-!- mprentice [n=mprentic@cpe-071-065-205-053.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 20:29:30-!- akh__ [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [] 20:38:59 * zizban flunks his 80s trivia quiz, hangs his head 20:50:03-!- jake1 [n=catrin@pool-68-163-135-126.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #fink ["Leaving"] 21:04:13-!- zizban [n=chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:07:44-!- zizban [n=chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 21:15:01-!- dmacks [n=dmacks@pool-70-17-216-104.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #fink 21:17:32< dmacks> !seen msachs 21:17:32< Melian> msachs was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 15d 20h 1m 12s ago, saying: 'newmanbe, I don't know anything about they do!'. 21:17:50< newmanbe> Bah. 21:21:51< dmacks> mcp: I use Brickhouse as a GUI for ipfw management. Apple's PrefPane is pretty weak. 21:24:00-!- rajesh [n=rajesh@nylug/member/rajesh] has quit ["leaving"] 21:25:44< zizban> Brickhouse rocks 21:30:07-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 21:30:13-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 21:36:31-!- zizban [n=chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:40:06-!- [Raccoon [n=raccoon@adsl-63-193-149-212.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 21:47:20-!- mrevelle [n=Matt@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:47:21-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:47:27-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.136.198] has joined #fink 21:47:42-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #fink 21:48:43-!- eno is now known as eno-away 21:50:34-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:52:20-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #fink 22:24:31-!- Netsplit herbert.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Clef__ 22:24:50-!- Netsplit over, joins: Clef__ 22:43:21< dmacks> !seen fingolfin 22:43:22< Melian> fingolfin was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 57d 12h 1m 40s ago, saying: 'so... I guess... no way to undelete files on HFS+.... or is there.... ? '. 22:43:27< dmacks> woo:( 22:56:59-!- [Raccoon [n=raccoon@adsl-63-193-149-212.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [] 22:58:12-!- nkuttler [n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-195-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #fink 23:02:04-!- bkn [n=bkn@c-66-30-12-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:35:08-!- gopherd_ [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-21d7c54c5b15ba22] has joined #fink 23:35:08-!- Topic for #fink: Have a question? Check the FAQ: http://fink.sf.net/faq || Latest Installers: 0.6.4 (10.2), 0.7.2 (10.3), 0.8.0 (10.4) || Fink 0.24.10: Cameloparadalis 23:35:08-!- Topic set by akh [] [Thu Aug 25 10:00:59 2005] 23:35:08[Users #fink] 23:35:08[ Airo ] [ dmacks ] [ jack- ] [ mprentice ] [ RLD_osx ] 23:35:08[ asari ] [ emp ] [ JosephSpiros] [ muesli ] [ runelind] 23:35:08[ BleedAway] [ eno-away] [ kane-xs ] [ Murr ] [ shres ] 23:35:08[ brendan ] [ Erik____] [ KraMer ] [ newmanbe ] [ swix__ ] 23:35:08[ cirdan ] [ gecko2 ] [ lisppaste ] [ nkuttler ] [ usataway] 23:35:08[ Clef__ ] [ gopherd ] [ mcp ] [ pnorman ] 23:35:08[ cls ] [ gopherd_] [ mdmonk_ ] [ pogma ] 23:35:08[ cmeme ] [ gzl ] [ Melian ] [ RangerAway] 23:35:08-!- Irssi: #fink: Total of 37 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 37 normal] 23:35:10-!- [freenode-info] Welcome Tor users! Please stop by #tor to compare notes and to report any freenode Tor problems. 23:35:12-!- Channel #fink created Sun Aug 3 17:57:20 2003 23:35:17-!- newmanbe_ [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-5c75f4ca8c22cd58] has joined #fink 23:35:49-!- Irssi: Join to #fink was synced in 45 secs 23:48:45-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.136.198] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:58:40-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has quit [] --- Log closed Mon Oct 03 00:00:17 2005 .