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Anybody also experiencing this? 09:28:14< asari> blackfla1: don't you have /usr/bin/uudecode? 09:28:29< blackfla1> no 09:28:56< blackfla1> wait yes 09:28:58< asari> hm 09:29:01< blackfla1> sorry 09:30:09-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 09:30:15-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 09:30:34-!- blackfla1 [n=jamesk@pcp04373021pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 10:04:28-!- noroute [n=flo@p54BE0ECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:05:13-!- Uchiha [n=wyattgoe@dial-in-66-218-59-26.dslextreme.com] has joined #fink 10:06:00< Uchiha> is there a way to pause fink? 10:06:03< Uchiha> like 10:06:15< Uchiha> when it's downloading? 10:06:22< asari> Uchiha: Ctrl-z ? 10:07:04< asari> Uchiha: I mean, if you use fink on Terminal.app.. 10:07:22< Uchiha> yeah 10:08:03< asari> if so, press Control-Z on your terminal window. 10:08:15< Uchiha> ok 10:09:29< Uchiha> Then I can just fink install packagename again to pick up where I left off? 10:09:44< asari> no, 10:09:56< asari> "fg" 10:10:01< asari> to continue. 10:10:22< Uchiha> !!!! 10:10:26< Uchiha> Oh sweet! 10:10:28< Uchiha> thanks 10:10:50< asari> np 10:12:29< asari> this is a famous unix-style way, so ask google about fg, bash, or jobs if you want to know more. 10:13:24< asari> maybe easier than asking from a non-English speaker ;-) 10:16:01< Uchiha> ok 10:16:20< asari> enjoy :) 10:17:07< Uchiha> oh man 10:17:10< Uchiha> I have to go. 10:17:15< Uchiha> Talk to you later 10:17:20< Uchiha> ttylnuke!!111 10:17:22-!- Uchiha [n=wyattgoe@dial-in-66-218-59-26.dslextreme.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:33:43-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.141.47] has joined #fink 10:34:23-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-160-52.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:50:26-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 10:50:41-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:05-!- TheSin [n=TheSin@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has joined #fink 11:01:20< TheSin> Clef, you awake? 11:03:23-!- noroute [n=flo@p54BE128F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #fink 11:03:46< noroute> Is it possible to download sources for packages by hand and then let fink compile and build the .deb? Where do I have to put the files? 11:04:02< TheSin> /sw/src 11:05:02< noroute> ah, yes, thanks. I was looking for such a dir in /sw/var... 11:07:34< noroute> it works... 11:08:13< TheSin> nod ;) 11:17:59-!- noroute_ [n=flo@flthiel.dialup.fu-berlin.de] has joined #fink 11:29:16-!- noroute [n=flo@p54BE128F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:50:58< TheSin> !seen msash 11:50:59< Melian> i haven't seen 'msash', TheSin 12:02:14< newmanbe> !msachs 12:02:59 * newmanbe shrugs. 12:03:13< newmanbe> Or is msash someone else? 12:09:27< TheSin> right msachs :P thanks newmanbe 12:09:31< TheSin> !seen msachs 12:09:33< Melian> msachs was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 7d 12m 53s ago, saying: 'newmanbe, I don't know anything about they do!'. 12:09:39< TheSin> wow it's been awhile 12:10:39< newmanbe> !seen Fingolfin 12:10:43< Melian> fingolfin was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 48d 14h 48m 10s ago, saying: 'so... I guess... no way to undelete files on HFS+.... or is there.... ? '. 12:10:49< newmanbe> Even longer. ;) 12:10:54< newmanbe> And he is the channel contact. :) 12:19:50< TheSin> :P 12:20:23< newmanbe> Good thing drm comes here, or otherwise I'd have this channel dropped an take it over. ;) 12:23:52< newmanbe> Humph, Fingolfin seems to come to freenode without visiting us! 12:24:06< newmanbe> Or it could just be that Melian's crazy. 12:27:40< TheSin> no he does 12:27:45< TheSin> he is taking a fink break 12:27:50< TheSin> but still does oss 12:28:05< newmanbe> He seems to take those a lot... 12:29:10< TheSin> something is wrong with gawk on darwin i386 12:29:11-!- noroute_ [n=flo@flthiel.dialup.fu-berlin.de] has quit ["leaving"] 12:29:20< TheSin> hmmm this is gonna be a tough one I think 12:29:36< TheSin> cause it compiles and runs, just doesn't act as expected 12:29:39< newmanbe> A lot of things are probably wrong with Darwin/x86. 12:29:50< TheSin> ya I'm trying to fix them 12:30:00< TheSin> I have a friend that seems to love Darwin (no idea why) 12:30:10< TheSin> so I installed it and told him I'd try to fix the stuff he needs 12:30:18< TheSin> trying to get apache2 going right now 12:30:31< TheSin> and it needs gawk during the build and it fails 12:30:39< TheSin> gawk -f /sw/src/fink.build/apr-ssl-0.9.6-11/httpd-2.0.54/srclib/apr/build/make_var_export.awk /sw/src/fink.build/apr-ssl-0.9.6-11/httpd-2.0.54/srclib/apr/include/*.h > export_vars.c 12:30:41 * newmanbe tries to imagine needing apache2... 12:30:41< TheSin> gawk: /sw/src/fink.build/apr-ssl-0.9.6-11/httpd-2.0.54/srclib/apr/build/make_var_export.awk:4: fatal error: internal error 12:35:09< TheSin> well Im' heading out for abit, if msachs stops by let him know I'm looking for him k? 12:35:24< newmanbe> Okay. 12:35:33< TheSin> thanks man 12:35:58< newmanbe> Apache2, I don't know how he sleeps at night... 12:41:48< TheSin> careful, it's my pkg :P 12:42:06< TheSin> and i use it on three production servers (debian linux though) 12:42:13< TheSin> it's much faster then apache1 12:42:17< newmanbe> I don't know how *you* sleep at night. 12:42:20< TheSin> hehe 12:42:37< TheSin> anyhow gotta run 12:42:47< newmanbe> Apache, I don't know how you sleep at night... 12:42:49< TheSin> wait till you hear that I use php5 on my production servers ;) 12:42:51< newmanbe> How's that? :) 13:02:18< htodd> wierd 13:02:21< htodd> er, weird 13:02:31 * newmanbe shrugs. 13:02:40< newmanbe> CGI-and friends aren't all that bad. 13:02:56< htodd> I haven't had a package to update in weeks 13:03:29< htodd> nm. 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15:34:02< newmanbe> No. 15:34:29< newmanbe> Nobody's awake! 15:34:41< newmanbe> That would be true if I was still in just #fink and #opendarwin. 15:34:53 * newmanbe goes to find out what is in window 77. 15:35:26< TheSin> :P 15:40:58-!- pHatidic [n=Snak@cpe-69-207-38-66.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 15:46:38-!- TheSin [n=TheSin@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 15:49:12-!- rudy [n=rudy@growl/rudy] has joined #fink 15:50:33-!- Gardner [n=mjg@pcp05047549pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #fink 16:05:20-!- pHatidic [n=Snak@cpe-69-207-38-66.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit ["defenestrated"] 16:09:24-!- sid77 is now known as sid77_ 16:12:38-!- sid77_ [n=sid77@host-84-222-59-120.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/"] 16:21:32-!- pHatidic [n=Snak@cpe-69-207-38-66.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 16:28:16-!- Uchiha [n=wyattgoe@dial-in-66-159-217-95.dslextreme.com] has joined #fink 16:28:43< Uchiha> I had to turn off my computer in the middle of fink installing something 16:29:07< Uchiha> if I fink install the same package, will it just pick up where it left off? 16:31:01-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 16:31:11< pHatidic> anyone here know how to use Gimp.app? I am trying to switch from the fink version to get the newer version compatible with SIOX, but I am having trouble 16:34:24< Uchiha> I use Gimp for OS X 16:34:28< Uchiha> what exactly are you trying to do? 16:36:52< Uchiha> I had to turn off my computer in the middle of fink installing something 16:36:55< Uchiha> if I fink install the same package, will it just pick up where it left off? 16:38:15< drm> Uchiha: yes 16:39:47< Uchiha> thanks 16:42:29< pHatidic> Uchiha: I am trying to use gimp.app, but it crashes as soon as I try launching it 16:42:50< Uchiha> do you have X.app installed? 16:45:29-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:46:22< pHatidic> Uchiha: no, just X11 16:46:30< pHatidic> I need X.app? 16:46:37< Uchiha> um 16:46:42< Uchiha> X11.app 16:47:16< Uchiha> so you have that? 16:47:24< Uchiha> ok 16:48:02< pHatidic> yeah X11 is installed 16:48:11< pHatidic> so when I click on gimp it launches X11, but then gimp itself closes 16:48:18< Uchiha> ok 16:48:22< Uchiha> I know the problem 16:48:32< Uchiha> open up X11.app 16:48:40< Uchiha> then open an xterm 16:49:01< Uchiha> now 16:49:10< Uchiha> cd into Gimp.app 16:49:24< Uchiha> like you would a folder 16:49:52< pHatidic> ok 16:50:20< pHatidic> now what? 16:50:31< Uchiha> cd into /Gimp.app/Contents/MacOS 16:50:42< Uchiha> once you're in Gimp.app 16:50:48< Uchiha> cd into Contents/MacOS 16:51:23< Uchiha> ready for the last step? 16:51:32< pHatidic> yes 16:51:32< Uchiha> ./Gimp 16:51:49< Uchiha> Go through the setup doohickey 16:52:02< Uchiha> And now you can just launch from the icon from now on 16:52:04< pHatidic> hmm 16:52:06< pHatidic> ] 16:52:06< pHatidic> The domain/default pair of (.GlobalPreferences, AppleCollationOrder) does not exist 16:52:07< pHatidic> dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.1.dylib 16:52:07< pHatidic> Referenced from: /Applications/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp-2.2 16:52:07< pHatidic> Reason: image not found 16:52:33< Uchiha> what version of Mac OS X are you running? 16:52:41< pHatidic> tiger 16:52:46< Uchiha> um 16:53:04< Uchiha> I think there's also a X11 dev kit you have to install 16:53:09< Uchiha> let me check 16:53:32< pHatidic> i feel like i installed that under panther, do I have to install it again? 16:54:04< Uchiha> wait 16:54:10< Uchiha> so you installed on panther 16:54:17< Uchiha> and you upgrade? 16:54:19< Uchiha> upgraded? 16:54:25< Uchiha> to tiger? 16:54:26< pHatidic> right 16:54:58< Uchiha> maybe 16:54:59< Uchiha> but hold on one more sec 16:55:06< pHatidic> I am pretty sure I had the dev kit installed, but I can always reinstall 16:55:11< Uchiha> do you have X11SDK.pkg installed? 16:55:23< cirdan> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.1.dylib is in the x11 package 16:55:26< cirdan> i'd just use xorg 16:56:12< pHatidic> ok I just installed X11SDK.pkg 16:56:14< pHatidic> I will try again 16:56:22< cirdan> no the sdk 16:56:23< Uchiha> That's the second to last problem I could think of 16:56:32< Uchiha> Maybe you should reinstall it 16:56:42< Uchiha> I don't really know what's wrong 16:56:43< pHatidic> heh same error 16:56:45< pHatidic> ok 16:57:13< pHatidic> oh well 17:24:59-!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 17:25:34< zizban> ahh, a nice blank PC from Tiger Direct, what to put on it? 17:26:01< Gardner> One's feet? 17:28:00< zizban> good idea 17:28:11< zizban> foot warmer for those new england winters 17:30:02< Gardner> Maybe use it to even out a short table leg. 17:30:10-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 17:30:16-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 17:30:57< Gardner> I mean, it *worked* a dozen lines above. 17:31:00< Gardner> oops 17:33:14< zizban> heh 17:39:09< Gardner> Trying to get help with building Test::Exception Perl module. 17:39:45< zizban> good luck! 17:39:47< zizban> :) 18:10:30-!- Gardner [n=mjg@pcp05047549pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 18:18:54-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 18:27:54-!- Uchiha [n=wyattgoe@dial-in-66-159-217-95.dslextreme.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:29:57-!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit [] 18:38:05-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 18:38:18< drm> hi 18:38:25< akh> hi 18:38:39< drm> akh: you've built openoffice.org, right? 18:38:48< akh> Yes. 18:38:57< akh> Several times now. 18:39:07< drm> lots of disk space required, if i recall previous discussions correctly? 18:40:39< akh> Yeah--the requirements have been reduced with new revs, but it does take somewhere in the multi-gigabyte range. 18:41:58< akh> The main problem is that currently it rolls its own versions of a lot of stuff rather than using the Fink mainline equivalents. 18:42:22< drm> i see 18:42:40< akh> I believe that that aspect is being worked on. 18:43:10< akh> Having to roll a whole python and mozilla is pretty brutal. 18:43:11< drm> anyway, i'm about to build it for the first two times, just wanted to be sure i was ready :) 18:43:19< akh> Heh. 18:43:50< drm> (two times because it is currently forcing gcc-3.3, so i've gotta do it both with gcc-3.3 and gcc-4.0 to see what's up) 18:44:37< akh> Ah. Someone should see about making it use libgettext3-dev instead of gettext-dev, too. 18:44:53< drm> well, that's not the issue i'm currently working on :) 18:45:06< drm> trying to get everything ready for a 10.4 tree 18:45:22< akh> Right. 18:45:34< drm> which, at the moment, seems like it will wait until XCode 2.2 is released 18:45:41< drm> but i want to be ready to go when that happens 18:45:42< akh> Fair enough. 18:46:16< drm> openoffice.org and kde are the only things i still have to work on...guess i saved the big ones for last :/ 18:46:25< akh> Yeah. 18:47:17 * akh may move the new version of cvs over to stable--I've gotten positive feedback on it. 18:47:30< drm> sounds good 18:48:07< akh> I've got a couple of other packages that probably could be moved--maybe I'll send out a call for feedback on them. 18:48:46< drm> i know that gettext3 is a big bottleneck for moving stuff still, but this probem that TheSIn found has to be fixed 18:49:03< akh> Yeah, it looks like it. 18:49:06< drm> in fact, fixing it might require a fink release...still wroking on that 18:49:15< drm> working, even 18:49:34< akh> drm: If you do that, I put in a change to how fink calls wget. 18:50:02< akh> upstream changed --non-verbose to --no-verbose 18:50:11< drm> did you already put in the change? has it been put into branch_0_24 as well as HEAD? 18:50:59< akh> drm: It's just in HEAD. I wanted to shake it down a bit before thinking about branch_0_24. 18:51:15< akh> That's been done to my satisfaction nw. 18:51:17< akh> now. 18:51:41< drm> ok...well, you might want to back port it then, since a release might be imminent 18:51:45< akh> (I just replaced the long flag with the short one, which remained unchanged) 18:51:54< drm> (unless i can find another way to fix gettext3) 18:52:05< akh> OK. I'll do that. 18:52:09< drm> akh: yeah, i saw your change, but didn't notice which branch(es) it applied to 18:52:54< akh> drm: Just HEAD, because I was at work and didn't have too much time. 18:53:44< akh> I'll backport it and add my new upstream wget back. 18:54:52< drm> well, wait to add it back until the thing has been released 18:55:27< akh> Right! (as I have to have a dependency on fink>=0.24.11) 18:56:52-!- zizban [n=Zeta@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 19:11:09-!- drm [n=drm@adsl-69-110-23-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:17:26-!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has joined #fink 19:19:16< akh> Gah! /me keeps getting "up-to-date" check failures. How the hell do I backport to another branch of fink? 19:19:46< zizban> you don't 19:19:51< zizban> next question? 19:20:06< akh> But I was told to... 19:20:10< akh> ;-) 19:20:39< akh> I know the cvs commands, I just can't get the stupid file to commit to that branch. 19:20:41< zizban> by who? RangerRick? bah! 19:20:44< akh> drm 19:21:08< zizban> better. ingnore him :) 19:21:12< akh> I wouldn't bother but it's for the new wget. 19:21:21< zizban> OH 19:21:27< zizban> ya thats kinda important 19:22:02< akh> yup 19:22:03< akh> biab 19:46:01-!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 20:00:00-!- megahal [i=foobar@ip-246-036.oberlin.net] has joined #fink 20:01:02-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@trip.cc.gt.atl.ga.us] has quit [K-lined] 20:02:01-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-edf2c5efa29e4525] has joined #fink 20:08:51 * akh uses the brute-force method. 20:08:56< newmanbe> !alicekill Apple 20:08:57< Melian> I want to kill Apple, I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill Apple. Kill. I wanna see Apple's blood and gore and guts and have Apple's veins in my teeth. Eat Apple's dead burnt body. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL! and I jump around with newmanbe, yelling "KILL, KILL" 20:09:02< zizban> heh 20:09:05< akh> newmanbe: what for this time? 20:09:18-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:09:21< newmanbe> The man page for mount_smb does not match the actual program. 20:09:31< newmanbe> Just like telnetd... 20:09:35< akh> Ah. Understandable then. 20:09:53< akh> Not unlike the C++ ABI fiasco. 20:10:35< zizban> yepper 20:11:38< newmanbe> What in the world is a synthfs... 20:11:56< zizban> a filesystem based on bad 80s bands 20:12:00< akh> The opposite of a realfs ? 20:12:15< zizban> /ThompsonTwins 20:12:22 * newmanbe shrugs. 20:12:22< zizban> /FlockofSeagulls 20:12:24< zizban> etc 20:12:28< newmanbe> It's in /sbin. 20:12:48< newmanbe> But of course it doesn't have a manpage! 20:13:13< asari> hi all 20:13:19< newmanbe> Hello. 20:13:22< akh> asari: hi 20:13:28< zizban> newmanbe: I think I find a page about it online 20:13:50< zizban> ah its for use in Single User mode 20:13:52< newmanbe> Oh, that's a great help. ;) 20:14:06< asari> axel has the similar problem as wget 20:14:16< newmanbe> The package or the program? 20:14:19< asari> ah, not axel, but fink :p 20:14:33< asari> $ fink rebuild sl 20:14:34< asari> : 20:14:36< asari> : 20:14:42< zizban> Synthfs is used to execute certain kernel options in single user mode 20:14:44< asari> axel -S 1 --verbose http://home.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/nyoho/slMacOSX.tar.gz 20:14:45< newmanbe> Paster! 20:14:50< asari> Usage: axel [options] url1 [url2] [url...] 20:14:57< asari> !paste 20:14:58< Melian> lisppaste is a bot that lets you post large chunks of text without flooding the channel. Use it at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink 20:15:29 * newmanbe has been trying to figure out how to mount a SAMBA file system. 20:16:07< zizban> well synthfs wont help 20:16:09< akh> asari: What version of axel? 20:16:26< newmanbe> zizban: mount_smbfs isn't any either. 20:16:29< akh> Not 1.0a, I hope? 20:16:32< zizban> heh 20:16:33< asari> Axel version 1.0a (Darwin) 20:16:40< akh> Ouch. 20:16:41< asari> hehe 20:17:01< lisppaste> asari pasted "axel fails" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11979 20:17:38< asari> s/--verbose/-v/ 20:17:47< asari> will do, anyway. 20:17:49< akh> Ah--that's technically the opposite of the problem with wget (which failed for non-verbose) 20:17:56< newmanbe> Hmm, I need to be root to mount a smbfs... 20:18:01< newmanbe> Makes sense I suppose. 20:19:29< asari> Or for a workaround, Verbose: 0 in fink.conf.. 20:19:30< akh> asari: I can commit a change to HEAD and maybe get people to try it out. I'm not sure it will make it into the next fink release because that's supposed to be pretty soon. 20:19:54< asari> thanks 20:20:05< akh> No problem. 20:20:58 * akh forgets that my powerbook is now case-sensitive. 20:21:00< akh> oops 20:22:20< zizban> ouch 20:23:03< newmanbe> akh: It doesn't like being called powerbook anymore. 20:23:09< newmanbe> Remember, PowerBook. ;) 20:23:22< akh> Good point. :-) 20:24:14< zizban> Good Point :) 20:24:31< zizban> might as well start typing case sensitive in real life 20:24:36< zizban> just to get used to it :) 20:25:56< akh> HeH 20:53:11-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [] 20:57:28-!- zizban [n=Zeta@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit ["Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!"] 20:58:29-!- Gardner [n=mjg@pcp05047549pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #fink 21:01:29-!- rajesh [n=rajesh@nylug/member/rajesh] has quit ["leaving"] 21:08:51-!- [Raccoon [n=raccoon@adsl-63-193-149-212.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 21:12:35-!- rpop [n=rpop@unaffiliated/face/x-000000001] has joined #fink 21:19:47-!- pHatidic [n=Snak@cpe-69-207-38-66.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit ["defenestrated"] 21:19:55-!- pinskia [n=pinskia@nr10-216-68-188-49.fuse.net] has joined #fink 21:20:05< pinskia> question, which project depends on gawk? 21:20:22< pinskia> because I think 3.1.4 have a bug in it 21:20:31< newmanbe> Package you mean? 21:21:15 * newmanbe would use grep to find out which files have Depends: and gawk in them, assuming you have Fink installed. 21:26:00< newmanbe> !tell pinskia about mailinglists 21:29:15-!- pinskia [n=pinskia@nr10-216-68-188-49.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29:54-!- pinskia [n=pinskia@nr10-216-68-188-49.fuse.net] has joined #fink 21:29:54< pinskia> of course 3.1.2 also have a bug too 21:30:12-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 21:30:18-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 21:42:18-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.128.163] has joined #fink 21:44:17-!- citizen_0 [n=user@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:51:55-!- Gardner [n=mjg@pcp05047549pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 22:05:25-!- citizen_0 [n=user@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 22:44:16-!- lane [n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #fink 22:44:42< lane> Good evening, all. 22:49:33< lane> I've got a compiler question. I'm about to install Fink and run unstable on Tiger. I had some problems when I tried to compile digikam and k3b on Tiger - namely the KDE configure script has blacklisted the compiler. I'm suspecting that was gcc 4 that is blacklisted. Earlier today I noticed that Tiger does come with gcc 3.3. I was wondering if Fink would care if I change the /usr/bin/gcc symlink from /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3. 22:49:46< pinskia> hmm 22:50:11< pinskia> gccselect 22:50:51< lane> Indeed... 22:50:59< lane> OK, so that solves the how 22:51:12< lane> I still have the "Is this a good idea?" 22:51:35< lane> My hope is that if I go with gcc 3.3, I'll have better luck porting the extra KDE apps 22:51:40< pinskia> if KDE is blacklisting a compiler because it miscompiles it on x86, KDE is broken 22:51:48-!- pinskia [n=pinskia@nr10-216-68-188-49.fuse.net] has left #fink [] 23:02:58-!- citizen_0 [n=user@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:05:24-!- megahal [i=foobar@ip-246-036.oberlin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:14:19-!- brendan [n=brendan@albatross.kublai.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:14:24-!- brendan- [n=nbrendan@albatross.kublai.com] has joined #fink 23:15:19-!- brendan- is now known as brendan 23:26:04-!- [Raccoon [n=raccoon@adsl-63-193-149-212.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [] 23:29:24-!- lane [n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] --- Log closed Mon Sep 26 00:00:11 2005 .