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I've written up what I did in case someone want to try or knows something I missed http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2005-09.html#e2005-09-05T08_29_14.txt 09:21:16< cirdan> goatbar: try on #opendarwin if you want 09:22:11< goatbar> cool. thx 09:24:05-!- citizen_0 [n=user@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 09:30:17-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 09:30:19-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 09:40:32-!- goatbar [n=goatbar@pool-70-109-190-212.man.east.verizon.net] has left #fink [] 09:49:07-!- RangerAway is now known as RangerRick 09:49:59< vasi> hey RangerRick 09:50:22< vasi> have you had any reports of monodevelop not building? 09:52:51< pogma> fink-core is going to have to decide something on the mirrors dns issue 09:54:04< vasi> i have no experience with such things...so i have no idea what we *can* do 09:54:06< pogma> dmalloc is mia 09:54:23< vasi> this i know 09:54:26< pogma> he's got the keys to changing the dns, noone else 09:55:17< vasi> right 09:55:19< vasi> so what can we decide to do? pass a resolution censuring dmalloc? 09:55:19< pogma> so maybe finkmirrors.net could be abandoned in out finkmirrors package 09:55:20< pogma> and use opendarwin? 09:56:33< vasi> oh wait, this thing is about finkmirrors.net, crap 09:56:34< vasi> i got it mixed up with the finkproject.org mishap 09:56:35< vasi> *sigh* 09:57:38< pogma> it is not pretty 09:57:43< vasi> does anybody have dmalloc's info so we can try to get to him in a non e-mail way? 09:57:45< RangerRick> vasi: off and on, I've had continual reports of monodevelop not building; I've never been able to reproduce/fix them in a meaningful way... it Works For Me (and pleny of other people) 09:57:46-!- hennker_ [n=hennker@carter.informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [] 09:57:46< vasi> RR, well i'll send you the build log so you can add it to your list 09:58:20< RangerRick> alright :) 09:59:04< vasi> btw, i responded to your bug report 09:59:04< RangerRick> yeah 09:59:07< cirdan> hmm 09:59:08< vasi> re: fink --trees 09:59:11< cirdan> !seen dmalloc 09:59:11< Melian> dmalloc <~whatever@chello080108111128.5.11.univie.teleweb.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 35d 8h 50m 24s ago, saying: 'hello'. 09:59:12< cirdan> wow 09:59:13< RangerRick> I don't have a pat answer, I just know it was not the results I expected :) 09:59:13< cirdan> could have sworn i saw him a few days ago 09:59:29< vasi> RR: heh...you may want to throw it to -devel 10:11:46< vasi> RR, well for one thing monodevelop needs a BDep on intltool... 10:13:09< RangerRick> ok 10:13:42-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.148.14] has joined #fink 10:13:59< vasi> but that's a minor thing 10:23:17-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.138.176] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:25:18-!- baba [n=baba@YahooBB220041000080.bbtec.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:26:56 * gecko2 will do a testbuild of monodevelop 10:30:08-!- shreyas is now known as shres 10:31:16-!- sn9 [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #fink 10:33:16< vasi> !lisppaste 10:33:24< vasi> lisppaste: url 10:33:25< lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 10:33:32< lisppaste> vasi pasted "monodevelop failure for RangerRick" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11385 10:34:05< Melian> You can use lisppaste to paste errors at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink , instead of flooding the channel. 10:36:49-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Client exiting"] 10:38:56< sn9> would anybody like to field a VDQ? 10:40:43< sn9> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8119640&forum_id=3200 10:40:45< sn9> I'm sure I'm missing something obvious 10:43:07-!- alejo [n=tanks@84-72-231-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #fink 10:57:24-!- cianhughes [n=cian@cian.ws] has joined #fink 11:01:57-!- chris01 [n=chris01@212.126.165.246] has joined #fink 11:06:58-!- shres is now known as shres_to_burp 11:10:19-!- shres_to_burp is now known as shres_dinner 11:10:20-!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 11:22:11-!- aeroflot [n=tanks@84-72-231-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #fink 11:22:12-!- alejo [n=tanks@84-72-231-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:30:04-!- chris01 [n=chris01@212.126.165.246] has quit ["bye"] 11:31:49-!- grub_booter [n=charlie@dD57602BF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:33:40-!- grub_booter [n=charlie@dD57602BF.access.telenet.be] has joined #fink 11:42:54-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #fink 11:42:55< drm> hey cirdan 11:43:03< zizban> hey drm 11:43:14< drm> hi zizban 11:46:08< sn9> quiet in here... 11:46:17< drm> shh! :) 11:46:53< sn9> i thought it was irc, not a library 11:46:57< drm> just a joke 11:47:06< sn9> same here 11:47:27< drm> guess being a holiday in the U.S., not so many folks are at computers 11:47:31< zizban> holiday 11:47:44< drm> still, i wanna talk to cirdan :) 11:48:06-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.148.24] has joined #fink 11:48:07< hennker> !seen thesin 11:48:11< Melian> thesin <~TheSin@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 31d 23h 35m 24s ago, saying: 'talk about a good day to com back, might get the TV to keep :D'. 11:48:40< hennker> anyone knows if he's on holidays? 11:48:59< drm> dunno, haven't talked to him for a while, hennker 11:50:13< hennker> hm, the package search on the website seems to be broken? fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/search.php?summary=lftp <- returns no packages 11:50:48< drm> yes, definitely broken today 11:50:54< hennker> well, i sent a patched lftp info-file to him, with the patch to keep lftp from using 100% cpu even when idle 11:51:20< hennker> some days ago 11:51:28< hennker> so i was just wondering ;) 12:02:11-!- gopherd [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-871ea8ac07dc29a8] has joined #fink 12:02:11-!- Topic for #fink: Have a question? Check the FAQ: http://fink.sf.net/faq || Latest Installers: 0.6.4 (10.2), 0.7.2 (10.3), 0.8.0 (10.4) || Fink 0.24.10: Cameloparadalis 12:02:11-!- Topic set by akh [] [Thu Aug 25 10:00:59 2005] 12:02:11[Users #fink] 12:02:11[ aeroflot ] [ citizen_0] [ gecko2 ] [ JosephSpiros] [ Melian ] [ runelind] 12:02:11[ Airo ] [ Clef ] [ gopherd ] [ jtyler_ ] [ muesli ] [ shreyas ] 12:02:11[ armenb ] [ cmeme ] [ grub_booter] [ kane-xs ] [ newmanbe ] [ sn9 ] 12:02:11[ asari ] [ cougar` ] [ gzl ] [ kito ] [ notFeanor ] [ swix_ ] 12:02:11[ BleedAway ] [ drm ] [ hennker ] [ KraMer ] [ pnorman ] [ usataway] 12:02:11[ brendan ] [ eno-away ] [ htodd ] [ lisppaste ] [ pogma ] [ zizban ] 12:02:11[ cianhughes] [ Erik____ ] [ ilan ] [ mcp ] [ RangerRick] [ zorton ] 12:02:11[ cirdan ] [ FSK405C ] [ jack- ] [ mee_bot ] [ RLD_osx ] 12:02:11-!- Irssi: #fink: Total of 47 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 47 normal] 12:02:12-!- Channel #fink created Sun Aug 3 17:57:20 2003 12:02:23-!- Irssi: Join to #fink was synced in 14 secs 12:03:14-!- chris01 [n=chris01@84-73-56-45.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #fink 12:05:58-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-f354b3d9874089da] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:05:58< sn9> a really bizarre symptom of this is that columns don't exactly line up anymore using monospaced fonts 12:06:20-!- kane-xs_ [n=kane@fia236-131-100.dsl.mxposure.nl] has joined #fink 12:06:22-!- _Zero_ [n=chatzill@206.188.129.48.ppp.northrock.bm] has joined #fink 12:06:36-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-5cb51cdc215ccc67] has joined #fink 12:06:40< RangerRick> chris01: I'm really thinking neon24 needs the -unified packages too, get weird upgrade issues even with my change in your cvs :P 12:06:52< zizban> like the old saying goes "Dont use monspaced fonts" 12:07:04< RangerRick> doctor, it hurts when I... 12:07:41< zizban> :) 12:07:42< sn9> ...breathe 12:12:12< drm> anybody know which lib the symbol _res_9_init comes from? 12:12:55< RangerRick> drm: -lresolv 12:13:06< drm> thanks 12:13:08-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-61-218.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 12:13:16< RangerRick> (I think) 12:13:23< drm> (i will try) 12:13:35< RangerRick> (hehe) 12:14:22 * drm hates trying to get ancient pkgs to work on modern os's 12:15:26< RangerRick> found one minor bug in your new gettext/iconv stuff, the .la's have some -L stuff in them; doesn't seem to hurt anything though 12:15:30< RangerRick> -L/sw/source.build/libiconv-1.10-3/libiconv-1.10/../_inst//sw/lib 12:15:47< drm> that's not good...which ones? 12:15:50< RangerRick> other than that I've run into no issues 12:16:02< RangerRick> well, it's hard to grep for now since I've built a bunch of stuff against it 12:16:05< RangerRick> lemme see :) 12:16:16< RangerRick> libiconv.la 12:16:31< RangerRick> anyways, running out to grab some food, back in 30 12:16:34< drm> ok...sigh 12:16:41< RangerRick> can be fixed with a perl -pi ;) 12:16:47< drm> yeah i know 12:20:28-!- grub_booter [n=charlie@dD57602BF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:21:55< drm> -lresolv did the trick 12:22:29< drm> gotta reboot, bbiab 12:22:34-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:24:04-!- kane-xs [n=kane@fia236-131-100.dsl.mxposure.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:24:57-!- grub_booter [n=charlie@dD57602BF.access.telenet.be] has joined #fink 12:50:38-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-61-218.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/"] 12:51:53-!- aeroflot [n=tanks@84-72-231-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["fucked firmware"] 13:02:24-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.148.24] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 13:08:13< chris01> RangerRick: sorry, i was away. I don't like the -unified packages. But probably need them, as you said. 13:08:26< RangerRick> I don't either, but I couldn't find another way 13:08:28< chris01> RangerRick: however, with the svn packages, that would get really nasty: 13:08:46< chris01> like: svn-unified-swig-py24 13:08:53< RangerRick> maybe the can be deprecated, and we can switch to non-unified in 10.5 or something 13:09:00< RangerRick> believe me, I know, take a look at postgresql sometime ;) 13:09:06< RangerRick> I couldn't find another way to make clean upgrades though 13:09:17< chris01> i see 13:09:33< RangerRick> not if ssl/non-ssl used to conflict 13:10:29< chris01> aha. ok. 13:11:05< chris01> oh well. 13:11:42< RangerRick> yeah :( 13:11:52< RangerRick> you can call it what you want, but it can't be a package name that already exists :) 13:13:07< chris01> i understand 13:13:21< chris01> Right now I am waiting for fink 0.24.10 to get to stable, together with libgettext3, before i am doing anything else 13:13:42< RangerRick> yeah 13:13:59< RangerRick> I'm stuck on moving kde to stable because of that too 13:14:05< RangerRick> among other things 13:14:09< chris01> mhm.... any news there? 13:14:15< chris01> did drm comment? 13:14:29< RangerRick> I've finally got my 10.3 box prepared for doing some stable move testing for kde 13:14:53< RangerRick> no comment I'm aware of 13:15:28< chris01> uh oh... automake failed to build: 13:15:36< chris01> lisppaste: url? 13:15:36< lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 13:16:06< lisppaste> chris01 pasted "failed automake1.9" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11390 13:16:14< chris01> has anybody seen this? 13:17:36< RangerRick> you using fink cvs? if so, might want to check you're up-to-date first 13:17:48< RangerRick> other than that, I've got nuthin' 13:17:58< RangerRick> the uninitialized value thing looks suspicious 13:18:38< RangerRick> I've gotta run, might want to ask vasi about it if you see him, he's become the fink engine guru as much as we have one (I'm sure he'll love me saying that too ;) 13:18:46-!- RangerRick is now known as RangerAway 13:30:08-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 13:30:14-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 13:39:47-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-61-218.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 13:52:24-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-61-218.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/"] 13:57:20-!- euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-130-20-169.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #fink 13:59:30-!- euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-130-20-169.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:38-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-61-218.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 14:20:59< mcp> evening 14:21:31< mcp> RangerAway: did you fix the kdepim3 trouble? :) I've seen there were new updates 14:21:35< RangerAway> mcp: I believe so, yes 14:21:39< mcp> cool 14:21:44< RangerAway> please let me know if you have problems 14:21:49< mcp> sure :) 14:21:52< RangerAway> I think kde's all squared away as of this morning (in theory) 14:21:55< mcp> I'll recompile this night 14:22:21< RangerAway> switching to the pthreads version of gpgme11 instead of pth fixed it for me 14:22:33< mcp> oh 14:22:35< RangerAway> kaddressbook (and anything liking it) doesn't crash now ;) 14:22:42< mcp> very nice 14:22:52< mcp> so I can use my favorite mua tomorrow :) 14:22:53< RangerAway> which is a definite plus 14:22:58< mcp> ack :) 14:23:09< RangerAway> about to commit amarok 1.3.1 too 14:28:57-!- euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-130-20-169.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #fink 14:34:49-!- sid77 is now known as sid77_ 14:34:50-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:35:25-!- RLD_osx [n=rldempse@66-190-76-181.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #fink 15:05:58< cirdan> RangerAway: you get my msg last night? 15:06:39< cirdan> someone test cdrecord so i can move it to stable 15:06:43< cirdan> and ppl stop whining 15:13:27-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-161-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 16:18:52-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 16:19:07-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 16:32:28-!- gopherd_ [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-0741794c0b7a8ccc] has joined #fink 16:32:28-!- Topic for #fink: Have a question? Check the FAQ: http://fink.sf.net/faq || Latest Installers: 0.6.4 (10.2), 0.7.2 (10.3), 0.8.0 (10.4) || Fink 0.24.10: Cameloparadalis 16:32:28-!- Topic set by akh [] [Thu Aug 25 10:00:59 2005] 16:32:28[Users #fink] 16:32:28[ _Zero_ ] [ cirdan ] [ gecko2 ] [ JesseW ] [ Melian ] [ sid77_ ] 16:32:28[ Airo ] [ citizen_0 ] [ gopherd ] [ JosephSpiros] [ muesli ] [ sn9 ] 16:32:28[ Albie ] [ Clef ] [ gopherd_ ] [ jtyler_ ] [ newmanbe ] [ swix_ ] 16:32:28[ armenb ] [ cmeme ] [ grub_booter] [ kane-xs_ ] [ notFeanor ] [ usataway] 16:32:28[ asari ] [ cougar` ] [ gzl ] [ kito ] [ pnorman ] [ zizban ] 16:32:28[ BleedAway ] [ eno-away ] [ hennker ] [ KraMer ] [ pogma ] [ zorton ] 16:32:28[ brendan ] [ Erik____ ] [ htodd ] [ lisppaste ] [ RangerAway] 16:32:28[ chris01 ] [ euthydemus] [ ilan ] [ mcp ] [ RLD_osx ] 16:32:28[ cianhughes] [ FSK405C ] [ jack- ] [ mee_bot ] [ runelind ] 16:32:28-!- Irssi: #fink: Total of 51 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 51 normal] 16:32:32-!- Channel #fink created Sun Aug 3 17:57:20 2003 16:32:57-!- Irssi: Join to #fink was synced in 33 secs 16:33:13-!- newmanbe_ [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-74ace1a57ef0e19f] has joined #fink 16:36:38-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-5cb51cdc215ccc67] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:36:43-!- newmanbe_ is now known as newmanbe 16:46:34-!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 16:47:26-!- euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-130-20-169.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:53:23-!- gopherd [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-871ea8ac07dc29a8] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:53:28-!- You're now known as gopherd 17:02:07-!- chris01 [n=chris01@84-73-56-45.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Computer went to sleep..."] 17:11:50-!- cougar` [n=Rick@pcp04357565pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:11:51< mcp> *sigh* 17:11:53< mcp> codeman@pbook:[/Users/codeman] # ps aux|awk -F" " '{print $8}'|grep -c ^E 17:12:04< mcp> 2 17:12:08< mcp> :( 17:12:13< zizban> ??? 17:12:22< newmanbe> mcp: What are you doing? 17:12:41< mcp> 2 processes in state "E", Finder and Toast :( 17:12:57< mcp> E is, if you don't know: Trying to exit 17:13:21< zizban> okay and...? 17:13:27< mcp> its the 'i can't count how often'ths this happened for me in Tiger 17:13:28< newmanbe> mcp: What are you talking about? 17:13:56< sn9> i got two processes in that state myself right now in Panther -- been that way for hours 17:13:59< mcp> newmanbe: about process states :p 17:14:03-!- asari [n=ASARI@gw07.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has quit ["Quitting!"] 17:14:16< newmanbe> Not Fink related! Off with 'yer head! 17:14:17-!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has joined #fink 17:14:17< mcp> sn9: never happened for me on panther (and I used that for a very long time) :) 17:14:21< mcp> newmanbe: bleh ;) 17:14:46< zizban> I was wondering what this had to do with fink :P 17:14:53< mcp> :) 17:14:55< sn9> it happened to me today when i forgot the -O to curl 17:15:16< sn9> was trying to generate a .info file at the time for fink 17:24:37< zizban> I prefer wget 17:28:51< sn9> normally i do too, but i wasn't thinking straight 17:29:08< zizban> heh 17:30:07-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 17:30:18-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 17:30:31< sn9> there's another alternative called snarf, too 17:31:15< sn9> i think there might also be something by the name of 'axel' 17:37:30-!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 17:41:38< zizban> I've heard of axel 17:43:07< zizban> snarf looks like wget 17:44:35-!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-161-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:47:00< sn9> wget can be the biggest PITA when robots.txt gets involved 17:51:53< zizban> true 18:11:17-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 18:11:45-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 19:00:16-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 19:00:49< vasi> !seen drm 19:00:49< Melian> drm was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 6h 38m 21s ago, saying: 'gotta reboot, bbiab'. 19:00:55< vasi> !seen dmacks 19:00:56< Melian> dmacks was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 3d 3h 24m 59s ago, saying: 'It does *not* print TIMEOUT, can't remember other details.'. 19:01:34< zizban> two strikes 19:04:17< newmanbe> !seen Fingolfin 19:04:17< Melian> fingolfin was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 30d 8h 22m 36s ago, saying: 'so... I guess... no way to undelete files on HFS+.... or is there.... ? '. 19:04:23< newmanbe> Three strikes. :) 19:05:59< vasi> feh 19:06:11< vasi> ooh i can bug cirdan 19:06:59< zizban> heh 19:07:21 * vasi unleashes the wrath of "Global symbol '%s' requires explicit package name" upon cirdan and his borked branch 19:09:37< runelind> hey finkers 19:09:58< runelind> !lisppaste 19:09:58< Melian> You can use lisppaste to paste errors at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink , instead of flooding the channel. 19:09:59< vasi> howdy 19:10:30< lisppaste> runelind pasted "gringotts" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11402 19:10:46< runelind> could anyone help me decipher this please? :) 19:12:41< vasi> looks like you're missing the symbol _GTK_OPTION_MENU 19:13:00< vasi> which probably means there's a header somewhere that defines a macro by that name 19:13:11< runelind> oy, how to fix? 19:13:12< vasi> eg: #define GTK_OPTION_MENU " 19:13:19-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 19:13:21< vasi> well let's google and find out where that's supposed to mean 19:13:29< vasi> er, be 19:14:43-!- mdmonk [n=mdmonk@dftech.org] has joined #fink 19:15:03< runelind> not much there... 19:15:36< vasi> hmm 19:15:44< runelind> this is a gnome app I think 19:15:46< runelind> gringotts 19:16:21< zizban> isn't that the bank in harry potter? 19:16:24< vasi> i'm also gonna check the contents of gtk+2-dev...since it's likely that it's somewhere there 19:16:32< akh> zizban: sure is. 19:16:36< runelind> zizban: yes, and encryption software 19:16:41< zizban> ahhhh 19:16:56< vasi> ah there we go 19:16:57< runelind> I glanced upon it when cvsup-ing my freebsd ports tree 19:17:13< vasi> it's here: /sw/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkoptionmenu.h:#define GTK_OPTION_MENU(obj) 19:17:15< runelind> so I just had to see if I could get it to work on my mac :) 19:17:28< vasi> so you have to find the file in gringotts that wants GTK_OPTION_MENU 19:17:32< vasi> (just grep for it) 19:17:49< vasi> and then at the top of that file, do '#include ' 19:17:55< vasi> (or something like that) 19:18:05< runelind> how do I grep within files again? ;p 19:18:28< vasi> 'man grep' :-P 19:18:50< runelind> I was waiting for that ;) 19:19:08< zizban> heh 19:20:44 * runelind rtfm's 19:23:25< cirdan> yo 19:23:33 * cirdan rm's tfm's 19:23:57< runelind> grep -R GTK_OPTION_MENU ? 19:24:03< cirdan> wassup vasi 19:24:21-!- sn9 [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:24:44< vasi> hey cirdan :-) 19:24:54 * cirdan felt his ears burn 19:24:56< cirdan> :-) 19:24:57 * zizban is still trying to get used to Colloquy's odd sounds 19:24:59< vasi> runelind, close 19:25:10< vasi> 'grep -r GTK_OPTION_MENU .' 19:25:16< vasi> lowercase r 19:25:23< vasi> and you need to tell it what directory to read 19:25:28< vasi> (that's the dot) 19:25:29< runelind> vasi: man page says they're the same thing 19:25:41< vasi> oh really? ok, i learned something new then 19:26:00< vasi> yay 19:27:02 * runelind tries it 19:27:57-!- dmacks [n=dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 19:28:53< vasi> hey dmacks...how ya doing? 19:28:57< dmacks> unemployed 19:29:06< runelind> :( 19:30:21< dmacks> And 'make test' fails quite dramatically. 19:31:02< runelind> dmacks: sorry to hear that, being unemployed sucks 19:31:10< vasi> :-/ 19:32:19< dmacks> Ya. I saw it coming, had hoped to have something else ready-to-go, but time was too short. Oh well. 19:32:47< akh> Bummer... 19:33:06< runelind> where were you working? 19:33:19< dmacks> mskcc.org 19:33:48< zizban> I just reemployed 19:34:00< dmacks> Got the 'puters job? 19:34:08< zizban> ya 19:34:15< dmacks> congrats! 19:34:26< zizban> thanks 19:34:36< zizban> had to gag get a pc gag 19:34:52< runelind> oh they're not so bad 19:34:55< runelind> just install freebsd :) 19:35:01< zizban> heh 19:35:11-!- citizen_0 [n=user@va-sterling-u1-c5c-a-146.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:35:13< zizban> that's what my el cheapo geek pc is for 19:35:26< runelind> I started a portupgrade -varR this morning 19:35:28< runelind> still going :) 19:35:35< dmacks> heh 19:35:36< zizban> I bet 19:36:08< runelind> looks like it is doing KDE right now ;-) 19:36:19< dmacks> ...and now... 19:36:24< dmacks> ...and now... 19:36:36< runelind> maybe it will be done tomorrow 19:36:58< zizban> if you are lucky 19:37:12< cirdan> if the planets are ini the right alignment 19:37:16< runelind> I have a MONSTAR 1ghz processor 19:37:17< cirdan> and Haley's comet appears 19:37:24 * akh injects fink from HEAD. May the Force be with me. 19:37:39< vasi> speaking of which, make test works fine for me dmacks 19:37:44< dmacks> weird 19:37:48 * cirdan tries to fix vasi's breakage in my branch 19:37:56< cirdan> :-p~ 19:38:01< vasi> my breakage? *astonished* 19:38:15< runelind> heh so many warnings 19:38:17< vasi> zizban, hey i had to code in VB at my last workplace 19:38:18< cirdan> it worked before you broke it 19:38:18< runelind> but it is still compiling 19:38:31< zizban> vasI; ack 19:38:33< cirdan> runelind: install colorgcc :-) 19:38:35< cirdan> it's fun 19:38:39< cirdan> technicolor 19:38:47< zizban> here I only teach computers, troubleshootl, etc 19:38:49< cirdan> rainbow 19:39:07< zizban> there are some apps I have never used, hence the pc so I can install them and work at them 19:39:16< cirdan> zizban: vnc 19:39:37< zizban> too late. already got the pc. "borrowed" the install disks from work 19:39:41< vasi> the VB stuff wasn't really that horrible, mostly just glue code...glad i learned it, at least so i know what a language should *not* look like 19:39:45< runelind> curses 19:39:47< runelind> same error again 19:39:53< lisppaste> dmacks pasted "failed tests" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11403 19:40:30< vasi> dmacks, you're completely upped to HEAD? 19:41:45< runelind> maybe he's completely upped in the HEAD 19:41:49< runelind> ;p 19:41:56< vasi> *groan* 19:42:03< dmacks> Yup, and /sw/lib/perl5/Fink is in sync also (manual copy) 19:42:13< dmacks> ha! 19:42:32< akh> vasi: HEAD works here.\ 19:42:44-!- Bart-- [n=hideout@p5080FB98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fink 19:42:49< runelind> still same error message even after putting in that include line 19:42:55< akh> (just checke out about 5 minutes ago) 19:42:55< Bart--> howdy.. 19:42:58< Bart--> i get my new ibook today 19:43:10< Bart--> g4 1,33 ghz and 1,5 gb ram 19:43:12< Bart--> nicely 19:43:50< runelind> still undefined option _GTK_OPTION_MENU 19:44:24< dmacks> Ooo...still getting the same test failures when I reinstall an old fink .deb. Looks like system-borkage:( 19:44:53< vasi> owie 19:45:11< cirdan> Global symbol "%system_gcc_default" requires explicit package name at /Users/chris/development/cvsmaster/fink.dist-up/perlmod/Fink/Services.pm line 1265. 19:45:14< cirdan> :-( 19:45:15< dmacks> runelind: Are you #including gtk/optionmenu.h ? 19:45:38< runelind> dmacks: yes 19:45:42< runelind> oh 19:45:43< vasi> runelind, make sure you put the include at the top of every file that uses GTK_OPTION_MENU 19:45:47< cirdan> is that mine, or HEADs? 19:46:00< vasi> cirdan, that's you 19:46:19< cirdan> hrm 19:46:20< runelind> what's the difference between include < > and include " " 19:46:20< vasi> i have no idea what system_gcc_default is....maybe it was there at one point 19:46:24< cirdan> it dissapeared 19:46:40< vasi> runelind, it affects where GCC looks for headers....usually not a big difference 19:46:53< dmacks> <> seatches all include paths, "" searches only explicit -I ones (not gcc default ones) 19:47:12< vasi> you usually use < > for system things, and " " for local ones (part of what you're building) 19:47:56< runelind> I have /sw/include in my CFLAGS 19:48:04< dmacks> ...so that one can have private .h files ('#include "config.h"' doesn't accidentally pick up /usr/include/config.h for example) 19:48:15< cirdan> <> looks in the default search list (/usr/local) and " " looks in the current dir, or like "../foo,h" 19:48:19< vasi> -I/sw/include i hope 19:48:20< runelind> gotcha 19:48:23< runelind> vasi: yes 19:48:40< vasi> well you should have something to include the gtk2 dir 19:48:40< dmacks> Yeah, for fink and for gtk+2 (either one, so also for the combination) it doesn't matter much) 19:49:10< runelind> vasi: what do I need to do? 19:49:11< dmacks> gtk+2 uses pkg-config 19:49:17< vasi> the following command should give you a list of things to add: pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0 19:49:35< vasi> most configure scripts will do that automagically 19:50:09< vasi> dmacks, thanks for your comment re: --trees 19:50:14< dmacks> np. 19:50:17< runelind> maybe this one doesn't... 19:50:52< vasi> do you think the magic-tree-names is good to do? ie: --trees=stable,virtual 19:51:26< dmacks> If you want to use gtk+2, the best way to get the flags is as vasi said for the .c->.o compiling and then the same but with s/cflags/libs/ to pass to the linker. 19:51:27< vasi> or should it be its own option, --include-virtual and --exclude-virtual 19:51:31< runelind> any suggestions? 19:51:41< dmacks> I like the magic names. 19:51:49< vasi> runelind, wanna lisppaste the whole configure/make for us? 19:51:57< akh> vasi: go with the magic 19:52:08< runelind> vasi, sure 19:52:13< vasi> hopefully nobody decides to call a real tree 'virtual' :-) 19:52:24< zizban> a virtual real tree? 19:52:43< runelind> http://devel.pluto.linux.it/projects/Gringotts/index.php?page=shots this is the project btw 19:52:51< vasi> well you could call it 'the-tree-of-a-thousand-ahhh-so-s' if you like....anything 19:52:53< runelind> I already got libGringotts compiled 19:53:02< vasi> it's just a dir :-) 19:53:21< dmacks> The tree called...the tree that was until recently called "virtual"? 19:53:43< vasi> heh! 19:53:55< zizban> what does gringotts do? 19:55:47< zizban> nm, I see 19:56:30< vasi> alright, i guess if somebody picks an awful name like that, it's their own damn fault 19:56:35< dmacks> heh 19:56:39< vasi> akh, i'll let you document that part :-) 19:56:52< zizban> gingotts looks good...port it! 19:57:12< akh> Umm...yeah. I'll get right on it... 19:57:18< zizban> thanks, man 19:57:39< runelind> I'm trying ;-) 19:57:59< runelind> !lisppaste 19:57:59< Melian> You can use lisppaste to paste errors at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink , instead of flooding the channel. 19:58:48< lisppaste> runelind pasted "configure" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11405 19:59:28< zizban> okay, what's wrong? 19:59:30< lisppaste> runelind annotated #11405 with "make" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11405#1 20:00:47< dmacks> Is GTK2_CFLAGS getting propagated to the .c->.o rules for the *.o that are failing-to-be-linked? 20:01:25< vasi> yeah, i'm not seeing any actual compilation, just linking 20:02:11< runelind> vasi: well the compilation shows more the first time you do it 20:02:20< runelind> and subsequent times it just goes straight to that error 20:02:34< runelind> I can try the make again with a freshly extracted src 20:02:56< akh> Or just do "make clean" 20:02:57< dmacks> 'find . -name \*.c | xargs touch' should make for a full recompilin' 20:03:32< runelind> k, remaking 20:04:20< dmacks> vasi: I had some random .pm files I was playing with located under perlmod/, so when 'make test' does its "check every .pm under perlmod/" it found them. 20:04:31< vasi> dmacks, aha! 20:05:58< akh> Not vasi's fault then. 20:06:01< lisppaste> runelind annotated #11405 with "full make" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11405#2 20:06:04< akh> (this time :-P ) 20:06:05< runelind> it's a big'un 20:06:05< dmacks> When I had tried to inject it, it rolled the tarball and updated the .info before running the tests, so 'reinstall' was finding the new (and never-successfully-tested) pkg not the one that was actually installed. 20:06:58 * akh usually installs an explicit fink version in that case. 20:07:44< vasi> runelind, the compile commands look fine 20:08:00 * dmacks wonders if "reinstall" should install the same version that is presently installed... 20:08:22< newmanbe> It would be great is every day was labor day. 20:08:32< vasi> runelind, can you check if you have any other gtkoptionmenu.h files around that might be interfering? 20:08:37< newmanbe> Then you would have off everyday in respect for those who work. 20:08:46< vasi> also, make sure your gtkoptionmenu.h really does define GTK_OPTION_MENU 20:11:12 * dmacks wonders if GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED is defined... 20:11:35 * dmacks answers "yes" 20:11:46< runelind> there are no other files, apart from in gtk-1.2 20:12:17< dmacks> Where/why does the -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED get added? 20:12:31< dmacks> Whoops... -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 20:13:50< lisppaste> akh pasted "yelp" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11406 20:14:04-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:14:14< akh> dmacks: when you get a chance see if that's adequate for a FAQ about installing yelp for GNOME help. 20:14:24-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 20:15:08< dmacks> s/plase/place/ 20:15:18< cirdan> argh 20:15:47< cirdan> who did the gcc crap in fink? 20:15:53< cirdan> redid, i mean 20:16:52< dmacks> Sounds good akh (modulo speeling) 20:17:28< dmacks> cirdan: RangerAway, drm, maybe-pogma, maybe-vasi, and I have all messed with it. 20:17:41< cirdan> hmm 20:18:07< vasi> msachs too! 20:18:47< dmacks> Oh yeah. Ummm...cirdan, just ask 'cvs annotate':) 20:18:47< runelind> any thoughts on what could be broken? 20:18:52< cirdan> heh 20:19:09< dmacks> < dmacks> Where/why does the -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED get added? 20:19:13< dmacks> < dmacks> Whoops... -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 20:19:21< dmacks> (that's for you, runelind) 20:20:24< runelind> oh, and you expect me to know such things? ;p 20:20:33< dmacks> sahree:) 20:21:16< akh> dmacks: I'll spehl-chek it. 20:25:05< dmacks> runelind: The GtkOptionMenu AIP was deprecated starting in gtk+-2.4; disabling the deprecated functions means it's not defined. 20:25:11< dmacks> s/AIP/API/ 20:25:24< runelind> ok, so what do I do? 20:25:36< dmacks> Don't pass that flag. 20:25:49< runelind> I'm not passing any flags that I know of 20:25:56< runelind> and I'm insulted that you think I am ;p 20:26:00< dmacks> Heh 20:26:06< runelind> an outstanding citizen such as myself 20:26:15< dmacks> Look at the compiler command with all the -I flags, you'll see the -D there. 20:26:40< dmacks> Pretend it's raining, and take down the flag. 20:27:02< runelind> do I do it during the configure command? 20:27:12< dmacks> Dunno where it's being added. 20:27:31< runelind> me neither :/ 20:27:51< dmacks> As a quick-fix, try inserting '#undef GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED' just before the #include that we discussed. 20:28:21< dmacks> And tell the upstream to read gtk/gtk-migrating-GtkComboBox.html in his gtk-doc:) 20:28:24-!- hennker [i=flullup@dsl-213-023-255-233.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20:28:55< runelind> heh 20:29:05< runelind> I don't think I'm in any position to make such demands 20:30:18< akh> runelind: sure you are. You're the incipient FInk maintainer for gringotts. 20:31:12< vasi> i've gotta go folks...seeya later 20:31:22-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Client exiting"] 20:31:53 * akh needs to try to figure out if there's a way that cvs-1.12.12 can be built on OSX without haviing totally hosed SSH. 20:31:53< zizban> ah, a new package 20:31:57< dmacks> Given the state of its website, I'm not surprised it can't cope with modern gtk+2 20:32:12< dmacks> "it"==grindotts 20:32:35< zizban> are you saying his html skills are reflective of his gtk skills? 20:32:58< akh> Or that it hasn't been updated in a while... 20:33:08< runelind> heh 20:33:10< dmacks> Well it does look like crap in lynx:) 20:33:23< dmacks> But also it hasn't been updated in a while and its CVS link is dead. 20:33:25 * runelind tries make again 20:33:39< runelind> go baby go 20:33:52-!- ilan [i=ilan@69.60.110.251] has left #fink [] 20:34:25 * runelind gasps 20:34:31< runelind> it compiles 20:34:35< runelind> but does it run? 20:34:37< zizban> lynx? use Links 20:34:54< dmacks> Looks like crap in elinks also:) 20:35:27< runelind> (process:11917): gringotts-CRITICAL **: The process is setuid root, but I can't lock memory paging 20:36:18< dmacks> Anyone heard of nabble.com discussion forum? 20:36:31< akh> not I. 20:36:44< runelind> how do I get around that one? 20:36:50 * dmacks suspects admins of fink-*@lists.sf will hear soon. 20:37:00-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:37:14< zizban> runelind: are making as a root? 20:37:24< runelind> yeah, maybe that was bad 20:37:25-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:37:45< zizban> maybe 20:38:11< runelind> tried it with just sudo 20:38:11 * akh likes the "signature" option on the wiki. 20:38:12< runelind> same thing 20:38:32< akh> runelind: Try making as a user 20:38:46< akh> Only "install" need be done as root, generally. 20:38:59< runelind> k 20:39:18< runelind> i'm making dinner as user right now ;p 20:39:25< akh> ah 20:39:29< runelind> da dum ching 20:39:32< runelind> thanks I'll be here all week 20:39:44< akh> hehe 20:40:00< akh> Cool! the GNOME page on the new wiki is starting to look non-crappy. 20:40:39< runelind> ok it definitely doesn't want to run 20:42:15 * dmacks throws peanuts at runelind 20:42:15< dmacks> 88888888888 20:42:34< runelind> can I un-set it as uid root? 20:42:48-!- dmacks [n=dmacks@pdpc/supporter/active/dmacks] has quit ["leaving"] 20:47:20< akh> dunno 20:54:23-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:54:33< runelind> heh, everyone is abandoning me 20:55:37< gopherd> Never fear; gopherd is here! 21:06:33-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 21:06:39-!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit [] 21:07:20-!- _Zero_ [n=chatzill@206.188.129.48.ppp.northrock.bm] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.65 [Mozilla rv:1.7.10/20050804]"] 21:08:27< cirdan> grrrr 21:09:42< newmanbe> Down cirdan! 21:16:20< cirdan> mel cable *BLOWS* 21:16:47< cirdan>  21:16:50< cirdan> hmph 21:17:00< newmanbe> Whoa! 21:17:10< cirdan> heh 21:17:21< cirdan> major packet loss it seems 21:18:04< runelind> (process:12682): gringotts-CRITICAL **: The process is setuid root, but I can't lock memory paging <-- makes baby jesus cry 21:18:27< cirdan> hah 21:19:53< runelind> how to fix? 21:22:36< cirdan> !seen vasi 21:22:43< cirdan> !lart melian 21:24:04-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 21:28:10< cirdan> !seen vasi 21:28:10< Melian> vasi was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 1h 10m 2s ago, saying: 'msachs too!'. 21:30:06-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Common Lisp IRC library - http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc"] 21:30:16-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 21:37:25< runelind> !lart gringotts 21:37:25 * Melian tries to shut gringotts up 21:37:35< runelind> Melian is losing her touch 21:38:36< cirdan> !lart gringotts 21:38:36 * Melian beats gringotts severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken 21:41:51< runelind> much better 21:42:25< runelind> google returns nothing on the issue 21:47:11< cirdan> what is gringotts 21:48:23< runelind> it is a security app for storing passwords and data 21:48:39< runelind> any idea how to fix it cirdan ? 21:48:46< cirdan> no idea 21:49:14< runelind> what is the problem? 22:08:11-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.141.61] has joined #fink 22:08:11-!- beniamino [n=ben@adsl-64-164-10-189.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 22:21:43< runelind> well I'll check in tomorrow :) 22:22:32-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #fink 22:22:53< drm> cirdan? 22:56:27-!- mdmonk is now known as mdmonk-away 23:17:31-!- beniamino [n=ben@adsl-64-164-10-189.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:21:12-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.144.216] has joined #fink 23:23:22-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:25:00-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.144.216] has quit [Client Quit] 23:27:37-!- Bart-- [n=hideout@p5080FB98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Computer going to sleep..."] 23:31:10-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.141.61] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:57:32-!- Bart-- [n=hideout@p5080FB98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fink --- Log closed Tue Sep 06 00:00:54 2005 .