--- Log opened Tue Aug 30 00:00:40 2005 00:01:58-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #fink 00:08:07-!- beniamino [n=beniamin@adsl-67-126-114-76.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 00:12:33-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@69.54.5.236] has quit [] 00:24:41-!- beniamino [n=beniamin@adsl-67-126-114-76.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:31:28-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:35:00-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #fink 00:39:53-!- shres [n=sshreyas@202.144.95.244] has joined #fink 00:46:35-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:48:53-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-146-222.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:53:59-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:54:57-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 00:55:14-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:55:40-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-73-52-165.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #fink 00:55:59-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 01:04:51-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 01:05:41-!- KsiLaptop is now known as Manfish_Cat 01:08:55-!- Fang [n=Fang@AToulon-151-1-44-200.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #fink 01:09:33-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:10:18-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 01:10:48-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:11:44-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 01:11:50-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 01:19:13< shres> Guys, whats the easiest way to move all my fink installed packages from /sw to /opt/* . I want to build a package and i dont want the package to overwrite peoples fink installation so.. 01:19:51-!- Manfish_Cat is now known as KsiLaptop 01:19:58< shres> can i tell fink to re install all my packages again in the new installation directory, 01:26:08< jack-> mv /sw /sw-old 01:26:15< jack-> install a fresh fink 01:26:16< jack-> done 01:27:35< jack-> of course you can move everything from /sw-old/fink/dists back to /sw/fink/dists 01:27:43< jack-> do a fink scanpackages, and voila 01:32:59-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-73-52-165.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:42:11-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-252-71-136.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #fink 01:51:14-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 02:00:38-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["brb"] 02:11:46-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 02:44:34< shres> jack-: forgive my ignorance, but what do u mean my install a fresh fink ? 02:47:41-!- KsiLapto1 [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-252-70-30.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #fink 02:48:15-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-252-71-136.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:03:11-!- Gavrila [n=Gav@213-140-16-182.fastres.net] has joined #fink 03:03:57-!- KsiLapto1 [n=Obelisk@adsl-68-252-70-30.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has quit ["leaving"] 03:31:46-!- chris01 [n=chris01@212.126.165.246] has joined #fink 03:41:26< chris01> pogma: are you here? 03:52:32< shres> guys, i just changed the path on fink to some /opt/gnome-2.12 and moved /sw to /old and then restarted fink commander. I get the followin gerror 03:52:43< shres> Error: FinkCommander was unable to determine the owner of /opt/gnome-2.12/bin/fink. 03:52:43< shres> For security reasons, FinkCommander will not run /opt/gnome-2.12/bin/fink unless it can determine that it is owned by root 03:53:06< shres> hmm the file permissions on the file are just fine, but ofcourse there is no /bin/fink there 03:54:51-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["brb"] 03:59:47-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-146-222.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 04:05:20< shres> When i try to install a new fink it always goes to upgrade mode and seems to pick up the install path /sw from somewhere. Any idea how to get around this ? 04:10:53< chris01> shres: make sure you don't install from a distribution, but actually do a bootstrap. 04:11:58< chris01> shres: you need to download from http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/srcdist.php 04:12:22< chris01> and then read http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/users-guide/install.php?phpLang=en#src 04:12:39< shres> Hmmm...i am just using the binary image, *.dmg. 04:13:32< chris01> shres: that won't work if you haven't fink installed in /sw 04:14:16< shres> oh but i can install fink in /sw but install packages elsewhere right ?. I cant seem to do that too 04:14:28< chris01> shres: no 04:15:13< chris01> you can either use /sw (which will allow you to use the binary dist) or use something else. 04:15:24< chris01> if you use something else, you need to build everything yourself. 04:16:38< shres> hmmm.. ok. I have a bunch of old source tars which i had saved when i installed them. if i move them to /src of the new installation will fink understand not to download them again :-/ 04:18:05< chris01> yup 04:19:46< shres> chris01: thanks a ton :-) 04:20:37< chris01> no problem 04:21:16< chris01> in general it is not recommend to install fink in something different from /sw 04:25:25-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #fink 04:25:43< sid77> re 04:35:21< shres> chris01: right, but i need to create a package of evolution-2.4 for release. And if i use a package maker in mac then it would install in /sw thus over writing his fink installation 04:55:26-!- Gavrila [n=Gav@213-140-16-182.fastres.net] has quit ["Sto andando via"] 04:59:22-!- hennker [i=flullup@dsl-213-023-249-164.arcor-ip.net] has joined #fink 05:20:33-!- dmalloc [n=mule@b36F2.static.pacific.net.au] has joined #fink 05:42:05-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-146-222.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:42:44-!- dmalloc [n=mule@b36F2.static.pacific.net.au] has quit ["Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"] 06:03:11-!- asari [n=asari@newsodan.sodan.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has joined #Fink 06:17:51-!- asari [n=asari@newsodan.sodan.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has left #Fink [] 06:26:28< Airo> hello, anyone used Data Rescue? 06:32:02-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 06:37:56< newmanbe> lisppaste! 06:38:03< newmanbe> Airo: No, are you having problems? 06:38:44< Airo> No, just wanted to be sure 06:43:38< Airo> oh, sorry wrong channel 06:43:53< Airo> Yeah, wanted to make sure it doesn't format the temporary drive 06:45:04< newmanbe> Ah, can't help you with that. :) 06:46:01< Airo> The guy I'm helping (with my external hd) says it won't 06:46:05< Airo> I hope he's right 06:50:04-!- gecko2 [i=gecko@unaffiliated/gecko2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:51:36-!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #fink 06:53:54-!- gecko2 [i=gecko@freeforge.net] has joined #fink 06:56:36-!- shres [n=sshreyas@202.144.95.244] has quit [Client Quit] 07:09:53-!- gecko2 [i=gecko@unaffiliated/gecko2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:10:07-!- gecko2 [i=gecko@freeforge.net] has joined #fink 07:15:29 * newmanbe punches Fink on behalf of gopherd. 07:15:52< newmanbe> Making me download/install Apache wihtout telling me first. 07:16:00< newmanbe> The shame. 07:17:02-!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:18:22-!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #fink 07:24:15-!- jtyler [n=jtyler@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:27:09-!- jtyler [n=jtyler@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has joined #fink 07:33:24-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 07:34:57-!- vasi [n=vasi@modemcable133.147-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 07:57:50< pogma> chris01: Hi 08:07:45-!- RangerRick [n=ranger@sifl.motricity.com] has joined #fink 08:27:29< chris01> hi pogma 08:27:45< chris01> pogma: i solved my problem myself... :) 08:28:19< chris01> but if you feel like having a look at the packages in my exp tree, that would be great. 08:28:43< chris01> RangerRick helped me solve some library versioning problems with openldap. 08:29:12-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #fink 08:29:27< drm> hi 08:29:37< chris01> hi drm 08:29:52< RangerRick> hola, drm 08:30:02< RangerRick> chris01: so did you get svn unified? 08:30:04< drm> anybody familiar with the charset.alias issues from gettext? 08:30:34< chris01> RangerRick: it just finished building about 2 minutes ago... don't push me. 08:30:38< chris01> ;) 08:30:48< RangerRick> not pushing, just curious :) 08:30:52< RangerRick> drm: not really, sorry 08:30:54< drm> we used to not include it at all... cirdan put it in to gettext3-shlibs... there was a complaint on fink-devel from a japanese user for whom it caused problems 08:31:15< drm> so i was thinking maybe it should go back out? 08:32:36 * RangerRick shrugs 08:32:53< drm> yeah 08:33:00< RangerRick> I only speak english, so I've really never had occasion to understand how basically any i18n stuff works 08:33:10< lisppaste> chris01 pasted "RangerRick: svn unified looking good!" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11244 08:33:33< RangerRick> nice 08:36:34< chris01> RangerRick: will test it quickly here and then submit it to my exp dir. 08:36:42< RangerRick> ok 08:40:14< vasi> hey drm, we've got a bug report on the tracker regarding the link on the website for "source install" 08:40:19< vasi> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=117203&aid=1227923&group_id=17203 08:41:22< vasi> is it possible to update the fink-%v-full.tgz tarball between releases? 08:42:17-!- akh [n=akhansen@ldx3.psfc.mit.edu] has joined #fink 08:45:06< chris01> RangerRick: ok, the unified neon24 and svn packages are now in my exp dir. Could you eyeball and maybe test them? 08:45:37< RangerRick> sure 08:47:04< chris01> thanks 08:47:28< akh> meh: mv: rename /sw/src/fink.build/root-koffice-1.4.1-21/sw/lib/libkivio*tool.* to /sw/src/fink.build/root-kivio-1.4.1-21/sw/lib/libkivio*tool.*: No such file or directory 08:47:57< RangerRick> akh: I got another report of that 08:48:02< RangerRick> what's the last thing in the build part? 08:48:08< RangerRick> it Worked For Me (TM) 08:48:10< RangerRick> :) 08:48:38< akh> I'll have to check--it was in a screen session and I forgot to turn on logging. 08:48:56< RangerRick> oop, just got an e-mail about it 08:49:38 * RangerRick runs another build 08:49:49< akh> I think I clobbered my log, but I'll try again and do a screenlog too. 08:50:35< RangerRick> 'sok 08:50:37< RangerRick> I see the problem 08:50:55< RangerRick> see what happens when you just do a build-check in the build root, but don't get it packaged up into debs? :) 08:51:23< akh> heh 08:52:22< akh> Had a few little stumbles for libs and base (i.e. having to manual install) but other than that it went pretty well. 08:52:44< RangerRick> yeah, I thought I had my upgrade all neatly done 08:52:58< RangerRick> forgetting that I had crap like kdebase3 conflicting with kdelibs3-ssl 08:53:00-!- mGiff [n=mGiff@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-18.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #fink 08:53:07< RangerRick> which makes it impossible to upgrade placeholder packages even 08:53:14< akh> It could have been worse--at least I didn't have to force-remove anything. 08:54:00< akh> So the users can be told "complicated dependency changes, so manually install to get around them" for now. 08:54:50< akh> And at least you didn't release _one_ 3.4.2 package and pull the older version like a certain dpkg-based OS did. 08:56:05< akh> (Yeah I'm bitter!) 08:56:17< RangerRick> huh? 08:57:16< RangerRick> like, they released the libs and didn't release anything else? 08:57:26 * pogma quietly switches channels to avoid akh's bitterness 08:57:39< akh> RangerRick: Nah--it was the menus. 08:58:02< akh> So I've got a 3.4.2 menu on a 3.3.x system--which doesn't work at all. 08:58:41< akh> Now they've got all of libs and base at 3.4.2. 08:58:54< RangerRick> ah 08:59:36< akh> The additional apps still aren't updated, so I'm holding off--but it kind of sucks having no menu, file association, ... 08:59:44< akh> It's like GNOME in Fink. ;-() 08:59:53< akh> (now) 09:00:25< akh> But I can open a konsole, so that's enough. 09:00:46< akh> 09:04:53-!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has joined #fink 09:09:01-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.134.214] has joined #fink 09:10:58-!- asari [n=ASARI@gw01.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has joined #Fink 09:18:07< asari> someone have sqlrelay.info ? 09:19:23< asari> http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net/ 09:23:04-!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:28:47< drm> vasi: ok, i will take a look 09:28:53< vasi> thanks drm 09:54:27-!- sid77 is now known as sid77_ 09:59:00-!- drm [n=drm@ip68-108-245-119.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:03:31< chris01> RangerRick: any luck with unified svn yet? 10:04:40< RangerRick> chris01: too busy with work, I'll look at it when I can 10:05:02< chris01> ok, np. And thanks. 10:09:09-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [] 10:09:29-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 10:09:51-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:10:34-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 10:17:10< chris01> vasi: you new code for local debs seems to work fine here. 10:17:23< vasi> chris01, i've already found a couple of problems :-( 10:17:32< vasi> 1. i shouldn't use -qq ever 10:17:39< vasi> and more importantly, 2. it's hella slow 10:17:50< vasi> time for more batching :-) 10:18:00< chris01> oh... ok. 10:35:47-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [] 10:41:47-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #fink 10:46:52-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 10:47:41-!- zizban [n=Chris@pool-141-154-151-219.wma.east.verizon.net] has joined #fink 10:49:51< zizban> okay my connection from work works 10:53:53< akh> w00t 10:54:04< zizban> ya first day 10:54:16< zizban> did you look at my revised Links? 10:54:24-!- Albie [n=ambs@193.136.10.10] has joined #fink 10:57:56< akh> I'll give it a whirl right now. 10:59:13-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:00:10< zizban> okay 11:01:14-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:01:29< akh> Unfortunately we've got the situation where "links-ssl" provides "links" so it's a bit confusing. 11:01:48< akh> "Unification" should clean that up. ;-) 11:02:59< akh> Hopefully the BuildConflict is sufficient. 11:03:01< zizban> :-) 11:03:14< zizban> it work on a coupleof machine I tried it 11:03:49< akh> Yeah, I figured it would, but there seems to be a lot of voodoo in compiling anything. 11:04:09< zizban> yepper 11:04:11 * akh got feedback on cvs that I _think_ is an upstream problem, not mine. 11:04:35< akh> I didn't see a --don't-screw-up-dates flag. 11:04:43< zizban> heh 11:04:51< zizban> so links is okay now? 11:04:59< akh> I'm still building. 11:05:03< zizban> oh 11:05:21< akh> I'll just otool the executable when it's done. 11:05:47< akh> And add my feedback to the tracker item one way or the other. 11:05:53< zizban> okay 11:06:07< zizban> I'll be around 11:06:10< akh> If it's OK I'll commit and close the item. 11:06:53 * akh wonders if I can install koffice yet... 11:07:07< akh> 1.4.1-21, that is 11:08:24< chris01> akh: positive feedback for you: your latest cvs package seems to work fine. 11:08:54< akh> chris01: OK--somebody claimed a problem with pserver access and an invalid date response. 11:09:25< akh> I think it was an upstream problem with time strings with "D" in the middle. 11:09:35< akh> (e.g. EDT vs EST) 11:10:44< akh> Unfortunately the next revision that fixes that problem was way broken here. 11:11:27< akh> zizban: otool looks good. Unfortunately the automatic reinstallation of a build-depend failed. 11:11:31< akh> Stupid fink. 11:11:38< akh> (no local .deb) 11:11:57< akh> It even downloaded the tarball. 11:11:58< zizban> so I have to fix, right? 11:12:10< akh> zizban: No--it's the fink engine. You're good. 11:12:18< zizban> cool 11:12:19< zizban> whew 11:13:44< akh> There may be a way to do it without a build-conflict--I think RangerRick did that for KDE because clearly openssl097-dev never got uninstalled before here--but this is simpler. 11:14:15< zizban> dmacks suggested it for Links 11:14:36< akh> It's policy-compliant, so that's fine. :-) 11:14:47< zizban> woot 11:15:09< zizban> now I can work on the bleeding edge Links--in case some user cares 11:16:11 * akh will file a request after I commit the current package. ;-) 11:17:08-!- beniamino [n=beniamin@callosum.BIC.Berkeley.EDU] has joined #fink 11:17:15< beniamino> #darwinports 11:17:31< zizban> heh 11:17:32< akh> No, #fink. :-P 11:17:41< zizban> its /join #darwinports 11:17:47< zizban> in case you are curious :-) 11:17:48< beniamino> oops :-) 11:22:24-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.137.71] has joined #fink 11:27:14-!- chris01 [n=chris01@212.126.165.246] has quit ["bye"] 11:27:47-!- Albie [n=ambs@193.136.10.10] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 11:28:56< vasi> akh, you're also hitting the 'UseBinaryDist and local repositories' bug? 11:29:05< akh> Yah. 11:29:16 * akh injected before seeing your report. 11:29:21< vasi> it's mostly fixed in CVS 11:29:26< vasi> still working on a faster fix 11:29:56< akh> OK--no need to rush on my account since my non-build machine is going back to Apple. 11:30:17< vasi> i'm working on it for ME, i don't care about you :-P 11:30:29< akh> heh 11:30:33< zizban> heh 11:30:37-!- sid77_ is now known as sid77 11:30:44< vasi> your box broke? 11:30:53< sid77> re 11:31:12< akh> vasi: it decided that it didn't want to charge anymore. 11:31:31< vasi> ooh my father's powerbook had that problem too 11:32:00< akh> I tried a different AC adapter, too, so I think I've pretty much localized it. 11:32:37-!- shres [n=sshreyas@59.92.134.214] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:34:15< akh> Kind of a bummer, because I've been _forced_ to use Excel for some stuff (oo.org and gnucash didn't have what I needed), so I'm going to have to use *shudder* Windows at home. 11:34:24< akh> (no Mac there) 11:34:34< RangerRick> the pain! 11:35:44< zizban> arg!!! 11:37:59-!- dmacks [n=dmacks@netspace.org] has joined #fink 11:38:55< akh> It was bad enough having to use MS office. 11:39:05< akh> Maybe this will motivate me to learn GRI. 11:40:42< akh> hmm--why do I keep trying to run "update.sh" to inject a new fink? 11:42:53< akh> Silly conditioned responses. 11:48:09 * RangerRick tries buidling his dpkg package and crosses his fingers 11:50:35-!- Albie [n=ambs@193.136.10.10] has joined #fink 11:51:13< zizban> lunch 11:51:54-!- Albie [n=ambs@193.136.10.10] has quit [Client Quit] 11:52:39-!- newmanbe_ [i=debian-t@tor/session/x-4495695d18741251] has joined #fink 11:52:43-!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 11:52:48-!- beniamino [n=beniamin@callosum.BIC.Berkeley.EDU] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:52:49-!- Murr [n=neeri@A17-202-20-71.apple.com] has joined #fink 11:53:35-!- Melian [n=blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 11:56:44-!- shreyas_ [n=sshreyas@59.92.146.195] has joined #fink 12:02:08-!- mGiff [n=mGiff@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-18.d-ip.magma.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 12:02:23-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-c607fe032e4c2051] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:05:26-!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-146-222.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 12:05:49-!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit ["Whoops, someone let the magic smoke out!"] 12:06:49-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.137.71] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:11:35< mcp> anyone in here with a xpdf 3.00-15 package? 12:22:30< sid77> ciao 12:22:32-!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-222-58-58.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["http://slackintosh.workaround.ch/"] 12:25:54-!- hennker_ [i=flullup@dsl-213-023-249-164.arcor-ip.net] has joined #fink 12:26:04-!- hennker_ [i=flullup@dsl-213-023-249-164.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:30:37< RangerRick> (yay, new dpkg works) 12:31:28-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.137.162] has joined #fink 12:41:50-!- eno-away [n=eno-away@64.163.151.101] has joined #fink 12:43:20-!- shreyas_ [n=sshreyas@59.92.146.195] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:44:38-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [] 12:51:36< akh> Zarael 12:51:41< akh> oops 12:51:48< akh> mcp 12:52:05< akh> one sec--need to reset the brain 12:52:52< akh> (clearly all of my blood _has_ been diverted to my digestive tract to work on lunch) 12:53:03< akh> mcp: I have that version of xpdf, yes. 12:55:27-!- drm [n=drm@kitp121.itp.ucsb.edu] has joined #fink 12:55:35< drm> dmacks? 12:55:36< zizban> ah, lunch on the company :) 12:55:59< akh> Not I, sadly. 12:58:14 * akh thinks Fink is giving me way too much information now. 12:58:50< lisppaste> akh pasted "tmi" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11251 12:58:57< drm> "i'm using gcc-4.0.0...i'm using gcc-4.0.0 again...i'm still using gcc-4.0.0"... like that? 12:59:13< vasi> huh 12:59:15< vasi> did i do that? 12:59:28< RangerRick> akh: it also looks like it's not finding versions that shoudl be there sometimes 12:59:37< drm> just happens for each thing you compile... i'm exaggerating, vasi 12:59:39< drm> :) 12:59:50< akh> RangerRick: Yeah, I noticed that. 12:59:53< RangerRick> drm: hm, I fixed that on HEAD, I guess it should be backported 12:59:57< RangerRick> drm: missing 2>&1 13:00:02< akh> This is on HEAD. 13:00:17< RangerRick> akh: I was talking about the gcc-4.0.0 thing drm was talking about, different issue 13:00:19< vasi> you mean the gcc_select method 13:00:22< vasi> ? 13:00:23< akh> RangerRick: ah 13:00:23< RangerRick> yeah 13:00:23< vasi> ah ok 13:00:26< drm> yup 13:00:31< RangerRick> vasi: it's spitting stuff out to the screen, rather than capturing it 13:00:37< RangerRick> vasi: fixed in HEAD, but not backported 13:00:39< vasi> RR yeah i know 13:00:52< vasi> i never thought it would be a big deal to say that once per build :-) 13:00:56< vasi> picky people 13:00:58-!- zizban [n=Chris@pool-141-154-151-219.wma.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:01:00< drm> hehe 13:01:29 * akh just doesn't want to have a bunch of messages on -beginners about this. 13:03:32< vasi> akh, then you should arrange for a --be-vewy-vewy-quiet option for fink 13:03:41< vasi> cuz most beginners don't need to see the complete buildlog 13:03:52< akh> True. I'm set on massively verbose. 13:04:33-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 13:04:56< drm> --elmer-fudd 13:08:26< akh> "wemoving gettext-dev in favouw of wibgettext3-dev. Uhuhuhuhuh" 13:08:49< akh> (and why do we use the UK spelling of 'favor', anyway) 13:09:02< vasi> speaking of which, we should probably eventually i18l-ize fink 13:09:06< drm> blasting that gettext-dev rabbit out of the woods with my libgettext3-dev shotgun 13:09:19< akh> Kill the wabbit! 13:09:34< drm> akh: i would assume that chrisp studied british rather than american english 13:09:38< akh> Yah. 13:09:43< akh> Makes sense. 13:09:48< vasi> when dmacks becomes unbusy i'll ask him about perl i18n, i know nothing about it 13:10:04< drm> actually, on second thought, that error msg is generated by dpkg itself, akh 13:10:17< drm> vasi: is dmacks busy? 13:10:23< vasi> ooh, go file a bug report with debian, they need more of those 13:10:43< akh> vasi: I still haven't filed my "broken KDE" report yet. 13:10:44-!- shreyas [n=sshreyas@59.92.137.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:10:51< akh> I'll add it to the queue. 13:15:24-!- drm [n=drm@kitp121.itp.ucsb.edu] has quit [] 13:15:51< vasi> hey akh, have i bugged you for opinions yet? :-) 13:16:00< akh> About what? 13:16:21< akh> (so probably not) 13:17:00< vasi> we have a few package mananger bugs on the tracker that are stalled because nobody knows what fink *should* do in the given situations 13:17:23< vasi> so i'm getting opinions on those...lemme find the links 13:17:42< vasi> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=755128&group_id=17203&atid=117203 13:17:48< vasi> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=934444&group_id=17203&atid=117203 13:18:09< vasi> basically, what should 'fink list --tree=foo' do? 13:18:30< vasi> and what should happen when someone does 'fink remove foo' while foo is both a virtual and real package? 13:20:08< RangerRick> for the latter, I'd think remove the real 13:20:37< akh> I'd agree with that. 13:20:55< vasi> what if just the virtual is installed? 13:21:17< RangerRick> spit out a warning? ("the only version of installed is virtual" or somesuch) 13:21:28< RangerRick> maybe say what provides it, too...? 13:21:36< akh> For the former: if --tree=stable returned the latest version from stable, even if there's a later one in unstable, that's a bit more intuitive. 13:21:50< akh> And more like the behavior in Fink Commander, too. 13:22:18< vasi> so you want 'fink list --tree=stable' to basically be like 'remove unstable from Trees in fink.conf, then run fink list' 13:22:22< vasi> ? 13:23:11< akh> I guess that's effectively what it would be, yeah --sounds painful now that you've said it, though. 13:23:24< vasi> (you know, with the new indexing i could probably actually give fink a global --tree option....and have it just ignore the other trees) 13:23:51< vasi> it would be nice to be able to do 'fink --trees=stable,local build foo' or something 13:24:10< akh> Yup. 13:24:24< vasi> cool, that's decided then 13:24:25< cirdan> woot 13:25:41-!- zizban [n=Chris@pool-141-154-151-219.wma.east.verizon.net] has joined #fink 13:26:20< cirdan> but what happens if i happen to have more than one local tree? 13:26:36< cirdan> can we go trees local/main,? 13:26:46< RangerRick> cirdan: would think so 13:26:46< cirdan> or like 10.4/unstable 13:27:06< RangerRick> maybe make it an implicit regex ^$tree-arg 13:27:18< RangerRick> found an important bug in my updated dpkg package 13:27:21< RangerRick> they removed md5sum ;) 13:27:30< RangerRick> had to add it back in 13:27:38< akh> ouch 13:28:12< vasi> cirdan, i think it would just work on the first element of that....so 'local/main' is part of local 13:28:27< vasi> because that's what $pkgversion->get_tree() returns 13:28:50< vasi> i could make it go either way though, we'll see 13:37:52< vasi> does anybody know if 'apt-cache dump' prints Packages files in the order apt prefers them? 13:40:18< RangerRick> no idea 13:41:34< RangerRick> if anyone's willing to try out my new dpkg and apt in exp, I'd appreciate it 13:41:38< RangerRick> I think I've got the basics working 13:46:14< akh> Guess I can pause my koffice build. 13:47:56< akh> What am I supposed to look for? 13:48:32< RangerRick> things not working anymore ;) 13:49:07< akh> ok 13:50:09< RangerRick> so are we ready to move libgettext3 to stable? are we? are we? 13:50:10 * RangerRick dances 13:50:11< RangerRick> :) 13:50:45< akh> Is fink-0.24.10 in stable? 13:51:16< RangerRick> soon, I think 13:51:56< akh> I guess it's that + possibly drm's libgettext3 update. 13:52:43< Murr> hmm 13:52:50< Murr> I feel so disenfranchised 13:53:00< akh> What didn't you get to vote for? 13:53:44< akh> I'm sure there's still time before anything happens (whatever the issue was ;-) ) 13:54:31 * zizban never gets to vote on anything 13:54:48< Murr> I tried to commit something in the fink experiomental tree and was rejected 13:54:53< Murr> boo hooooooooooooo! 13:55:02< zizban> heh 13:55:04< RangerRick> zizban: yes you do, it just gets ignored, because everyone knows one person's vote doesn't count! 13:55:09< cirdan> heh 13:55:12< zizban> heh 13:56:00< akh> Murr: Can't help you there: outside my authority. 13:56:27< dmacks> That's "authoritah". 13:56:37< cirdan> hehe 13:56:42< Murr> hmm, seems to have been my own fault 13:56:55< Murr> for whatever reason, I had the tree checked out using non-anonymous pserver 13:57:04< Murr> when did that stop workung? 13:59:11< vasi> RR, i'll test out synaptic with the new dpkg soonish 13:59:17< RangerRick> cool 13:59:23-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [] 13:59:38-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 14:00:36< akh> We should get kpackage, too. 14:00:49< RangerRick> ah, yeah 14:01:02< akh> RangerRick: found a problem already: the download URL spec for your new apt isn't happy. 14:01:11< RangerRick> akh: ah, yeah, I haven't uploaded it to sf yet 14:01:22< RangerRick> just a sec :) 14:01:24< akh> That'd do it. 14:01:32-!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.38.191] has joined #fink 14:02:49< RangerRick> have to package kdeadmin :) 14:03:19< akh> dpkg isn't there, either. 14:03:26< RangerRick> right 14:03:27< RangerRick> both of 'em 14:03:28< RangerRick> :) 14:03:34< akh> Thought so. ;-) 14:03:56< RangerRick> stupid SF is messed up right now 14:04:26< RangerRick> hah, they sent me to https://sourceforge.net:80/ 14:04:27< RangerRick> wtf? 14:04:48< zizban> "Does not compute" 14:05:09< akh> "Illogical, Illogical. Norman, coordinate." 14:06:52< RangerRick> ok, they're there, I have no idea how long they take to sync to the mirrors 14:07:26-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:08:28< akh> I'll probably do them tonightish then--after koffice builds. 14:08:46< RangerRick> sure, no rush 14:08:56< RangerRick> I want to let them settle a bit before I do anything official with them 14:09:06< akh> Right 14:13:20< vasi> usually takes a day or two to sync 14:13:27< vasi> at most 14:13:38< vasi> if you're lucky, just a couple hours 14:15:01< RangerRick> yeah, I thought the long sync was a side-effect of us doing non-standard things with the mirrors... 14:16:10< vasi> is it just me, or have the fink mirrors gotten much slower lately? 14:16:19< RangerRick> I think you're right 14:16:32< vasi> i keep getting 10-20 kbps 14:16:37< vasi> used to be ~200! 14:17:34< RangerRick> DownloadMethod: axelautomirror :) 14:17:42< vasi> heh 14:17:51< vasi> did the axel stuff ever work? 14:17:56< RangerRick> I thought so 14:18:00< vasi> i only tried it once and it was horribly broken 14:18:08< RangerRick> the only problem was some threading issues back in the 10.1/10.2 days 14:18:15< RangerRick> I was under the impression axel works pretty well now 14:18:15< vasi> usually it would work fine, but occaisonally it would crash the system or something 14:18:17 * RangerRick goes to try it 14:18:45< RangerRick> it was some kind of pth bug I thought 14:18:53< vasi> i dunno! 14:18:54< dmacks> "fink install guns-n-roses' to get full axel functionality. 14:19:02< vasi> *groan* 14:19:23-!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.38.191] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:19:32< zizban> heh 14:20:09< akh> oy 14:20:26 * akh used axel way back when (10.1 or so) 14:20:48-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 14:22:11-!- atheken [n=atheken@rrcs-24-123-50-242.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #fink 14:22:50-!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.38.191] has joined #fink 14:23:31< atheken> \joing #java 14:23:36< atheken> \join #java 14:23:57< dmacks> s/\\/\// 14:24:07< zizban> its /join #java 14:24:11< atheken> yeah 14:24:13< atheken> sorry. 14:24:18< RangerRick> !lart windows 14:24:19 * Melian moos at windows 14:24:20< RangerRick> :) 14:24:24< zizban> heh 14:24:25< atheken> but hello 14:24:29< RangerRick> hi :) 14:24:32< dmacks> Oh sure, zizban, say it in English instead of my line-noise solution! 14:24:37< atheken> how's it all going in here? 14:26:05< zizban> heh 14:26:13< zizban> next time is 28nckd8438458589! 14:26:18< zizban> so there! 14:26:52< RangerRick> going well 14:26:59< RangerRick> getting lots of fink, and very little work, done :) 14:28:19< zizban> my first day here so I have to work :) 14:28:23-!- auslander [n=tanks@84-72-237-208.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:30:48 * akh just had an unsettling experience--I one-click ordered from a vendor without realizing that would happen. 14:31:09< zizban> One Click Porn-O-Rama? 14:31:10< akh> I forgot that they had credit card information saved. 14:31:25< akh> zizban: Nope--work-related items. 14:31:44< akh> Nothing fun. 14:32:16< zizban> damn :) 14:32:22< akh> Yeah. ;-) 14:33:17< akh> If nobody "offiical" objects I'll commit links tonight. 14:33:31 * akh waits for "official" objections. 14:33:50< akh> And I'll bring in my 10.3 drive so that I can commit in 10.3 tomorrow. 14:33:50< zizban> thanks, man 14:33:56< akh> No problem. 14:38:15< akh> OK, let's see if the new dpkg can install the new apt 14:38:43-!- jack- [i=jack@dub.minimal.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:38:52< akh> hmm--why is "floppy" supported? What's a "floppy"? ;-) 14:38:55< atheken> love amazon, but 1-click is SCARY! 14:38:59-!- jack- [i=jack@dub.minimal.nl] has joined #fink 14:39:09< RangerRick> it is? it should have gotten deleted from the package 14:39:24< akh> RangerRick: Maybe that's what I was seeing. 14:39:39< RangerRick> oh, yeah, I had an ls in there so I could see what's going into it 14:39:43< RangerRick> I can delete that now 14:39:53-!- atheken [n=atheken@rrcs-24-123-50-242.central.biz.rr.com] has quit [] 14:40:02-!- atheken [n=atheken@rrcs-24-123-50-242.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #fink 14:40:50< akh> atheken: I'm glad I had everything correct in my order--I would have been irked if I had to modify it after the fact. 14:40:58< zizban> heh 14:41:46< atheken> I don't like that if you order something, it doesn't check to see if it can fill the order before putting a pending charge on your account. 14:42:09< atheken> if it can't fill the order, it cancels, but the charge pends for up to 10 days. 14:44:30< dmacks> Few years ago, /me was pricing various configurations of lab equipment, someone used my 'puter "to place a quick order", accidentally ordered my whole comparison-shopping set. 14:44:46< RangerRick> eek 14:44:52< RangerRick> I don't use 1-click 14:46:15-!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.38.191] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:46:49< atheken> sounds ugly. 14:46:57< atheken> try buying a TV on amazon.... 14:47:05< atheken> 3 times in a row. 14:47:20< atheken> big pending charges... no tv :-( 14:47:47< atheken> gives you too much time to think about it, suddenly, not an impaulse buy. 14:47:56< atheken> anyway. 14:48:16< atheken> since the Ranger is in, have you had any luck packaging MonoDevelop recently? 14:49:17< atheken> I've tried on various occasions to get it to compile and run on my 10.4 machine, almost always without luck, I got it compiled, once on 10.3 14:54:12< akh> RangerRick: dpkg-1.3.11 built -- haven't gotten to any .deb operations yet other than a dlocate. 14:55:14< RangerRick> atheken: it's packaged, and in fink unstable 14:55:18< RangerRick> and it Works For Me (TM) 14:55:32< RangerRick> although I didn't do much more than start it up, browse monodoc a little, open a file, and quit 14:56:15< atheken> can't even get to a compiled version - any possibility of the fink Mono and the "Real" Mono not playing nice? 14:56:29< RangerRick> atheken: possible, couldn't say without actual failure output (hint, hint) :) 14:56:31< RangerRick> lisppaste: url 14:56:31< lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 14:56:55< atheken> Actually don't even have fink installed right now - gasp! 14:57:24< atheken> (don't have mono installed either, so maybe this would be the time to check it. 14:57:42< vasi> RR, please update the Changelog when before committing to the fink module :-) 15:00:16< RangerRick> vasi: the change was so small and pointless, I didn't see the need :) 15:00:17< RangerRick> it was a 2-word change that was completely cosmetic 15:00:18< RangerRick> atheken: well that would be why your fink install of monodevelop doesn't work ;) 15:00:18< vasi> RR, yeah ok fine 15:00:18< vasi> i just saw a P next to Services.pm while i happened to be reading the changelog... 15:00:19< atheken> RR--> semantically, you are correct. pain. 15:00:19< atheken> :-D 15:00:19< RangerRick> vasi: I change it to say "waiting *up to* x second for a lock" 15:00:19< RangerRick> instead of "waiting for x seconds" :) 15:00:20< atheken> RR-> easiest....fix....ever.... 15:00:20< vasi> ah, you could make that change to the lockwait wrapper too if you're so inclined 15:00:30< dmacks> Actually I think you also changed it to "waiting up to for a lock"? 15:01:04< akh> hehe 15:01:39< RangerRick> hm, true :) 15:01:49< RangerRick> never seen it not have a timeout 15:01:52< RangerRick> whups ;) 15:01:58< zizban> lock in 3..2...1... 15:02:07< akh> That's a 0.25-blocker. 15:02:07< RangerRick> this is Major Tom to lock control 15:02:16< zizban> heh 15:02:46< akh> "Houston, we have a buildlock problem" 15:03:27< akh> "Can't remove libgettext3-dev because fink-buildlock- depends on it. Please advise, over" 15:05:23< atheken> thanks for the time, I will come back with some error output. 15:05:26-!- atheken [n=atheken@rrcs-24-123-50-242.central.biz.rr.com] has left #fink [] 15:06:35< zizban> don't they always? 15:07:10< akh> Generally 15:07:47< vasi> nover seen what not have a timeout? 15:07:53< vasi> never, even 15:09:52< akh> Looks like the apt build isn't going to finish before I leave. 15:10:39-!- akh is now known as akh_gone 15:10:44< akh_gone> laters 15:11:13< dmacks> vasi: Can we stop having selfupdate install gettext-dev yet? 15:11:34< vasi> why does it do that anyway? it's annoying but i never looked into it 15:12:03< dmacks> IIRC, selfupdate just piggy-backs the Bootstrap.pm list of pkgs needed to bootstrap. 15:12:09< mcp> evening 15:13:07< RangerRick> vasi: never seen it say the number of seconds when it says the "waiting for..." 15:13:20< dmacks> Philosophically, it's from back when gettext was intentionally omitted from Depends, so one needed to make sure its -dev was always present also. 15:14:16< dmacks> If we believe we have rooted out all those implicit deps, it's now a pointless thing to do I think. (unless it's somehow needed in the event selfupdate decides to rebuild one of the fink core components?) 15:14:28< vasi> it's hardcoded!? 15:14:36< RangerRick> vasi: ayup 15:15:07< dmacks> SelfUpdate calls Bootstrap::additional_packages 15:15:48< vasi> ok, i say we stop that :-) 15:16:19< dmacks> Have it take a "I know you're in the Bootstrap namespace but I only want the selfupdate subset" flag? 15:16:32< vasi> i almost always run debfoster after a build and remove all non-essentials sitting around, so it seems clear that it's not needed 15:16:44< vasi> heh 15:16:50< vasi> uh, do we need that method at all? 15:16:56< vasi> either something's essential, or it's not 15:16:59< dmacks> Talk to drm. 15:17:25< vasi> will do 15:17:46< vasi> dmacks, do you have any branches still hanging around that i should look at? 15:19:30< dmacks> I think val-unpack is ready to merge into HEAD 15:20:11< lisppaste> RangerRick pasted "new apt is more verbose; vasi's new apt code is trying to check packages multiple times" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/11252 15:20:20< RangerRick> couple of weirdnesses with head and my apt there 15:20:26< RangerRick> it's all cosmetic/speed issues, but... 15:20:46< vasi> RR, my "new code" from 5 minutes ago, or from yesterday? 15:21:01< RangerRick> I injected this morning, so yesterday I guess :) 15:21:12< dmacks> The only concern I have is with texshop.deb, but I don't have it so I can't mess with it. 15:21:15< vasi> update and try again... 15:21:23< RangerRick> yeah, updating right now 15:21:33< vasi> it doesn't spew stuff to stdout anymore 15:21:37< RangerRick> ah, good 15:21:50< vasi> and it also is much better at deciding when it has to check things with apt 15:22:19< RangerRick> excellente senor 15:23:39-!- qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #fink 15:23:57< qball> hi I am trying to compile a linux program on mac, and I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: 15:24:00< qball> std::__default_alloc_template::deallocate(void*, unsigned long) 15:24:05< qball> some other people do get it compiled on there mac. 15:24:08< qball> any ideas? 15:24:13< RangerRick> qball: are you linking with gcc or g++ ? 15:25:06< qball> hmmmm not sure, not my code.. let me look 15:26:05< qball> tried g++ doesnt seem to help 15:28:09< qball> any ideas? 15:30:10< RangerRick> don't know 15:30:19< RangerRick> I don't know much about templates, not sure how they get there, or not there :) 15:30:59< vasi> are you compiling/linking with gcc 3.3 or 4.0? 15:31:34< qball> 4 15:31:39 * RangerRick has to run 15:32:00-!- RangerRick [n=ranger@sifl.motricity.com] has quit ["the weasel has landed"] 15:32:39< qball> let me try 3 15:35:02< qball> same 15:36:10-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has quit [] 15:37:18-!- kbroderick [n=kbroderi@rich-dsl6-236.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #fink 15:42:12 * zizban uses his department's spiffy color laserjet 15:43:16< cirdan> heh 15:43:55< zizban> that' 15:44:00< zizban> s what they get for hiring me 15:44:51< dmacks> cirdan: Any thoughts about fixing cdrtools-beta (see -users) 15:45:49< zizban> OH does anyone know is Nautilus from fink supports cd burning? 15:47:29< dmacks> The nautilus-cd-burner package might be a good place to start looking. 15:47:46< cirdan> dmacks: as soon as i get my email working again 15:48:05< zizban> it was asked here the other night and I didn't know 15:48:45< dmacks> cirdan: Cool. 15:49:32< cirdan> hmm 15:49:39< cirdan> !lart ldap 15:49:40 * Melian whips out her power stapler and staples ldap's foot to the floor 15:50:50-!- JW [n=jw@216.206.23.114] has joined #fink 15:53:07< JW> This might be more of a perl Q but here goes: 15:53:14< JW> I'm trying to install XML::Parser via cpan and it can't automatically find expat libs/includes in /sw. 15:53:39< JW> It is ok if I use "look", then "perl Makefile.PL "EXPATLIBPATH=/sw/lib export EXPATINCPATH=/sw/include 15:53:45< JW> Is there a general system env variable I can set taht will make perl's make look in /sw for things like this? 15:53:51< cirdan> yeah 15:53:55< cirdan> when u configure cpan 15:54:42< JW> Ok? And if I reconfigure it: what option is it? 15:54:59< JW> Sorry, I'm not much of a perl person. 15:55:31< vasi> maybe ask on irc.perl.org? 15:55:32< zizban> ah, time to go 15:55:36-!- zizban [n=Chris@pool-141-154-151-219.wma.east.verizon.net] has quit ["e=mc2...galaxies in the void of space...I'm hungry!"] 15:55:55< JW> :) ok, thanks anyway 15:56:01< vasi> sorry! 15:56:06< JW> :) 15:57:38< JW> Um - I can't /list there, what channel should I try? 15:58:35 * dmacks thinks you might want to read the Fink FAQ to see what variables fink automatically sets when it compiles stuff. 15:58:52< dmacks> Then (export that stuff; perl Makefile.PL; make) 16:00:12< dmacks> If you're using fink to install the libs needed by XML::Parser, why not use fink to install XML::Parser also? 16:02:56< qball> /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lcrt0.o 16:03:09< qball> hmmmm get that when trying to compile static 16:03:35< vasi> yeah, on OS X don't compile static 16:03:39< qball> ok 16:03:40< dmacks> No pure-static compiling on OS X 16:03:44< vasi> er, rather don't link fully-static 16:04:01< vasi> if you want to include some libs statically, use '-l/path/to/foo.a' 16:04:03< qball> a well I just tried it to see if it helped 16:04:06< vasi> er, no -l 16:04:24< qball> td -lm 16:04:24< qball> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: 16:04:24< qball> std::__default_alloc_template::deallocate(void*, unsigned long) 16:04:26< qball> stil lgot this one 16:04:28< qball> grr 16:05:26-!- Yohan [n=1@194.44.191.131] has joined #fink 16:06:34< dmacks> qball: Perhaps post the whole compiler command and its full output? That error *can* be caused by the linker accidentally finding locally-built and broken libs instead of teh system's ones. 16:06:54-!- Yohan [n=1@194.44.191.131] has left #fink [] 16:06:57< qball> hmmm I tried doing a nice clean checkout and all that stuff. 16:07:03< dmacks> lisppaste: help 16:07:03< lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 16:07:12< JW> dmacks: using cpan just because that's the stanard company procedure for cpan modules 16:07:19< qball> I will alter.. 16:07:20< dmacks> JW: Ah okay:) 16:07:25< vasi> hmm dmacks....currently when a method in fink has a warning to give, we rely on it returning a value to indicate that 16:07:45< vasi> maybe we should have it issue an out-of-band warning instead? 16:08:13< vasi> then Validation can just replace the warning handler... 16:09:27< vasi> JW, it can get complicated to make CPAN and Fink work together...because each one wants to manage all your perlmods 16:09:55< dmacks> You mean "sub foo {warn 'error from foo'}; {local SIG{__WARN__} = sub {do something} &foo}' ? 16:10:38< JW> right, that's why we're installing all perl mods with cpan 16:10:39< JW> It works very well unless a cpan mod wants a system libray it can't find because it doesn't think to look in /sw 16:10:41< JW> So I'm trying to figure out how to tech it to look there :) 16:10:42< vasi> dmacks, not using SIG{__WARN__} though, define our own warning thingamajig 16:11:51< vasi> so fink_warn($priority, $message) or something 16:11:51< vasi> and then $config->set_warning_handler(&method); 16:12:09< vasi> JW, ah you're using a fink-installed perl? 16:12:11< dmacks> Gotta maintain a whole stack of processors, call 'em each in turn. What happens when one generates a warning itself? 16:12:51< vasi> dmacks, we can assume just one for now, no need to get silly...and presumably they should do simple, non-warnable things like print the warning or suppress the warning 16:13:20 * dmacks thinks you're programming yourself into a corner pretty tightly then. 16:13:45< vasi> mebbe...i'm just trying to think about how things like read_properties and handle_infon_block should communicate with Validation 16:13:57< vasi> so throwing out an idea :-) 16:14:41-!- regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:15:13< dmacks> Every time I want to add a warning handler in foo(), I'd need to check whether anything that calls foo already has one to capture results from anything foo calls. 16:15:13< cirdan> hmm 16:15:19< cirdan> anyone know ldap at all? 16:15:23< cirdan> having troubles setting it up 16:15:33< JW> vasi: using perl that comes with OS X. Some system libs like libpng and expat that come with fink. And modules that come from cpan. 16:16:08< vasi> dmacks, yeah ok, bad idea, i get it...that's why i asked you :-) 16:16:53< vasi> JW try searching the mailing lists? i'm pretty sure ppl have tried stuff like this before 16:16:57< vasi> also, google for it 16:16:58< dmacks> Signal passing blows hard:( 16:17:15-!- newmanbe_ is now known as newmanbe 16:17:26< dmacks> (...in almost *any* implementation) 16:27:55< dmacks> JW: 'fink dumpinfo xml-parser-pm586' will tell you the exact env vars and commands fink uses to compile its XML::Parser (linking against fink libs, obviously). Give [whatever it says] a try. 16:28:21< JW> I will do that, thanks 16:28:38< dmacks> Dunno how to write those into cpan defaults or using the cpan shell, but that would work for manual 'perl Makefile.PL;make;make install'-type approaches. 16:30:21< vasi> hmmm, why does Fink::Base->new not pass @_ on to initialize? that's silly and obvious 16:31:40< dmacks> Any time you start with "Why does Fink::Base...", I'm gonna shrug and stop listening right there. 16:32:07< vasi> that's good, cuz any time i do that it's a rhetorical question 16:32:09< vasi> :-) 16:32:14< dmacks> heh 16:32:25< vasi> "dmacks" ne "chrisp" 16:32:25-!- qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has left #fink [] 16:32:34< dmacks> roight:) 16:32:52< newmanbe> Lies! 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It won't take long. 17:00:14-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:01:00-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:02:10-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:02:55-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:03:23 * gopherd mysteriously bans cmeme. 17:03:44 * newmanbe remembered someone doing that before not knowing what it is. 17:04:06-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:04:08< newmanbe> Now they have to ban forever just because it's the network problem that gets on and on my friends! 17:04:47< newmanbe> Hehehe. 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Check the FAQ: http://fink.sf.net/faq || Latest Installers: 0.6.4 (10.2), 0.7.2 (10.3), 0.8.0 (10.4) || Fink 0.24.10: Cameloparadalis 17:36:50-!- Topic set by akh [] [Thu Aug 25 10:00:59 2005] 17:36:50[Users #fink] 17:36:50[ Airo ] [ cmeme ] [ hennker ] [ kito ] [ Melian ] [ usata ] 17:36:50[ akh_gone ] [ dmacks ] [ htodd ] [ knghtbrd ] [ muesli ] [ vasi ] 17:36:50[ armenb ] [ eno-away] [ jack- ] [ KraMer ] [ Murr ] [ ylon ] 17:36:50[ asari ] [ Erik____] [ JosephSpiros] [ KsiLaptop] [ newmanbe] [ zorton] 17:36:50[ BleedAway] [ gecko2 ] [ jtyler ] [ Ksilebo ] [ pnorman ] 17:36:50[ chenz ] [ gopherd ] [ JW ] [ lisppaste] [ pogma ] 17:36:50[ cirdan ] [ gopherd_] [ kane-xs ] [ mcp ] [ runelind] 17:36:50[ Clef ] [ gzl ] [ kbroderick ] [ mee_bot ] [ swix_ ] 17:36:50-!- Irssi: #fink: Total of 44 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 44 normal] 17:36:54-!- Channel #fink created Sun Aug 3 17:57:20 2003 17:37:05-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:17-!- Irssi: Join to #fink was synced in 30 secs 17:37:47-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:38:17< dmacks> chenz: You want to compile on a Linux box something that will run on OS X? 17:38:29< chenz> dmacks: right 17:38:59-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:39:44-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:40:00< chenz> dmacks: in fact the compiler itself isn't that big a problem, but rather the osx part (headers, libs etc) 17:40:55-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:41:39-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:42:14< chenz> i only found distcc based solutions that require an osx host (which i don't have ) 17:42:51-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:43:36-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:44:47-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:44:55< dmacks> You can download Apple's headers from Apple. 17:45:31-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:45:43< dmacks> Some but not all of Apple's libs are free I don't think. 17:46:00< chenz> dmacks: any idea what exactly? i've been trying without success to peek into xcode .dmgs all day ;-) 17:46:43-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:46:45< dmacks> They're a bit scattered in the xcode suite:( 17:47:28-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:47:58< dmacks> There are some SDKs that claim to be a comprehensive interface for a given OS X (10.3.9 for example) that go in /Developer/SDKs (dunno what .pkg though) 17:48:39-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:49:24-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:49:38-!- gopherd [n=irclogge@tor/session/x-fde6a09c5c3571d2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49:58< chenz> i can't even read from the .dmg images... dmg2iso.pl and "mount -o loop -t hfs ..." don't recognize the files... 17:50:35-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:21-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:51:35< newmanbe> I hate disk images. 17:51:38< newmanbe> They are very annoying. 17:52:31-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:53:16-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:53:56 * dmacks suspects it might be easier in the long run to just get access to a Mac. 17:54:27-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:43 * chenz has just applied for sourceforge compile farm access :) 17:55:01< dmacks> Good move. 17:55:12-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:55:17< chenz> they only have 10.2 though... 17:55:40< dmacks> What are you trying to compile? 17:55:56< dmacks> 10.2? That's pretty silly! 17:56:20< chenz> a game, SDL/OpenGL based... 17:56:25-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:57:09-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 17:57:12< dmacks> Well, if it compiles on 10.2 it'll run on 10.3 and 10.4 also. 17:58:21-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:59:04-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:00:16-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:01:00-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:02:13-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:02:58-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:04:08-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:04:53-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:06:05-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:06:49-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:07:24-!- JW [n=jw@216.206.23.114] has quit ["later"] 18:08:01-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08:45-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:09:58-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:10:34< newmanbe> dmacks: SourceForge.net has a httpd. That's preetty silly! 18:10:41-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:11:54-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:12:38-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:13:49-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:14:03< chenz> yeah! finally got an xcode .dmg that i can mount :) 18:14:10< dmacks> great! 18:14:34-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:15:45-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:16:30-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:17:14-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit [Success] 18:17:42-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:18:26-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:19:38-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:20:23-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:21:35-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:22:18-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:23:30-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:15-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:25:26-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:26:11-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:27:23-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:28:07-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:29:20-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:30:03-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:31:15-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:32:01-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:32:01-!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #fink 18:33:12-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:33:57-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:35:08-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:35:52-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:36:07< chenz> Hmmm... some of the Archive.pax.gz files don't really seem to be gzip compressed... 18:36:57< dmacks> ? 18:37:04-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:37:54< chenz> $ file /mnt/iso/Packages/BSDSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz 18:37:55< chenz> /mnt/iso/Packages/BSDSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix 18:38:08< chenz> $ file /mnt/iso/Packages/DevSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz 18:38:10< chenz> /mnt/iso/Packages/DevSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz: data 18:39:02-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:39:18-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:39:26< dmacks> Can you ungzip it? 18:39:47< chenz> $ gzip -dc /mnt/iso/Packages/DevSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz 18:39:48< chenz> gzip: /mnt/iso/Packages/DevSDK.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz: not in gzip format 18:40:03-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:40:56< dmacks> Wonder if Installer.app insists on that particular filename, and then hands it off to BOMArchiveHelper (or whatever) that knows how to extract all kinds of archives based on the file's actual contents... 18:41:14-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:41:59-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:43:11-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:55-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:45:06-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:45:51-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 18:46:49-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:55:54< chenz> i think the image is bad... i just got another one to mount and it looks better... 18:57:14< chenz> i don't suppose anyone has xcode_1.2_7k246_cd.dmg lying around so they could to a quick md5sum? ;) 19:00:24< dmacks> Mr. Cmeme is working on the situation here... 19:00:25-!- dmacks [n=dmacks@pdpc/supporter/active/dmacks] has quit ["leaving"] 19:07:57-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:08:19-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:08:58-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:10:16-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:10:54-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:10:58-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:12:03-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:12:26-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:15:37-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:19:12-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:22:07-!- cmeme [n=cmeme@boa.b9.com] has joined #fink 19:33:17-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 19:45:34-!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jack- 19:45:54-!- Netsplit over, joins: jack- 19:48:31-!- newmanbe [i=debian-t@tor/session/x-4495695d18741251] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:52:20-!- hennker [i=flullup@dsl-213-023-249-164.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["leaving"] 19:57:27-!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: vasi 19:57:40-!- Netsplit over, joins: vasi 19:58:53-!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-0eb96702caa9e07e] has joined #fink 20:19:27< akh> meh--No Ranger* and his experimental apt needs to have its copy of the apt-ftparchive manpage removed. 20:40:12-!- Murr [n=neeri@A17-202-20-71.apple.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:46:48-!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:12:34-!- jtyler_ [n=jtyler@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has joined #fink 21:12:52-!- jtyler [n=jtyler@iphost-64-56-130-194.edm.wiband.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:14:43< vasi> what's wrong with it? 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