Subj : Watergaters
To   : Jos Huijnen
From : Ger Vloothuis
Date : Thu Dec 28 2000 12:39 pm

Hello Jos!

27 Dec 28 19:17, Jos Huijnen wrote to Ger Vloothuis:

 JH> B.T.W. Starting the archivers directly and there are no problems at
 JH> all. WaterGate just calls the archivers, so normally there shouldn't
 JH> be any problem then. So my conclusion (for now) is that it has
 JH> something to do when calling the archiver from another (dos) program
 JH> (in this case WaterGate).

That is precisely what happens here. If run the archiver on its own, it worls 
fine.  When Watergate calls the archiver to pack mail, things stuff up.

The strange thing is that Watergate by itself runs flawless under NT4.  All 
routing and tossing and gating performs wonderwell.  The only problem is the 
packing of outbound mail.

I suspected something like memory availability in the DOS box, and I played a 
bit with the settings in NT4, but that doesn't seem to be the problem. Strange, 
because I like to run Watergate for the FTN > UUCP translation and routing. 
Also because of the built-in Areafix and Newsfix.  Pretty difficoult to get 
something similar what Newsfix does for the UUCP downlinks.

I have no idea why it won't run uder NT4 and if you have some idea where to 
look I'll go an test it.


 GV>> I got the impression that there would never be another version of
 GV>> Watergate. Ramon got married and after a girl comes on the scend
 GV>> it is all over :-)

 JH> Yups... It happened before, and it will happen again. A girl is a
 JH> programmers death. :-)

We might have to bribe Ramon with some Heineken or so.  He probably can't get 
that in Sweden :-)

 JH> But what version are you using now? And what flavour? I used the DPMI
 JH> version of v2.00PRE4 (which is only available for beta-testers). I
 JH> just want to now if this problem is in WaterGate for a long time, or
 JH> just one in the beta-runs.

No, I am not a betatester.  I run V0.93 with nine patches on Win98. Has been 
running for years now.  Never skips a beat.  These nine patches are a royal 
pain when you have to re-install on another machine, but I think it is still 
worth it.  Nothing else is as integrated to do UUCP and FTN in the same 
package.

I ran both the DPMI version and the DOS version.  Both with the same result at 
calling an external archiver to pack mail.  Under Win98 not a problem.  Under 
NT4 it only works now and then. And more then than now.

I might give it another try and get Watergate to send packets only (no 
archiving), and get some other program to do the mail bundling.  Don't know if 
that will work as yet, but it sounds like a good workaround.

 JH> About another version? I don't know... Since the source of WG is in
 JH> pascal I think it will be hard to find somebody who will pick up the
 JH> development. Most software in fidonet which is still developed is in
 JH> C(++).

Some Delphi people around here are telling me that the Borland Pascal code is 
not so hard to convert to Delphi.  If it does, it should probaly fix the 
NT4/Win2000 problem.  Don't know if that is true.

Cheers

Ger

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