Subj : Re: 1/2 on Topic
To   : All
From : Dr. Bad
Date : Sun Dec 29 2002 08:51 am

Yup, that's certainly the kind of language I'd like to use. Reliability is 
another key factor in terminal choice though. One of the key things Zoc has (at 
least if you're careful with which release you run) is that it never 
crashes/GPFs/closes unexpectedly, and, if a script ran successfully yesterday, 
then it will today [Zoc does actually have a few gremlins, but they tend not to 
get one killed in tw]. Swath's still a handful of bug fixes away from that. 

Dr. Bad

>From a message by macahan about Re: 1/2 on Topic:
> Or use SWATH and write scripts in a full flexed language like java. ;P

DB> Its also a bit of a blight on the scriptable telnet packages out there. 
Whilst there are some shortcomings of REXX (e.g. only token multiple source 
file support) most of the other comms packages
DB> around are worse still. Hyperaccess supports vb but is almost entirely a 
bug. Tera-term's language is more limited than REXX, and has problems on win2k. 
A few of the older progs have pretty
DB> semi-decent languages (richer than zoc/rexx anyhow), but they're typically 
unsupported with no continuing development, who knows whether they will work 
with newer OS's, and/or have weird timing
DB> delays because of having to run through various compatibility layers.

DB> Dr. bad


>>From a message by Kavanagh about Re: Re:1/2 on Topic:
>> You well answered me, it is similar to the qwerty/Dvorak keyboard.
DB>  > 
DB>  > 
DB>  > 
DB>  > >From a message by Kemper3 about Re:1/2 on Topic:
DB>  > > I think it has to do with people using Zoc.  Zoc doesn't take any 
DB>  > sort of special setup to use for tradewars, there are public scripts 
DB>  > available for it, it's still being updated, and you can use it 
DB>  > without paying for it if you want to sit through the nag screen.  
DB>  > Then, since people had REXX scripts for zoc, attac and swath decided 
DB>  > to support it too, probably in hopes of winning over users.  REXX 
DB>  > probably isn't the best language, but it works well for tradewars.  
DB>  > At this point, it's probably mainly used because people already have 
DB>  > stuff written in rexx and know the language.
DB>  > 
DB>  > On 27 Dec 2002 at 19:08, Kavanagh wrote:
DB>  > 
DB>  > > 
DB>  > > Helpers, Terminal programs:
DB>  > > 
DB>  > > From my reading here and elsewhwere the latest Swath version embraces 
ZOC (REXX, OS/2).
DB>  > > 
DB>  > > Has baffled me for years in TW. I despise microsoft crap but IBM never 
supported OS/2 - deserved to die for that - why use REXX? lots of excellent PC 
DOS terminal programs. Telemate, Qmodem,
DB> etc.

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