Subj : NASA, shuttle, anyone? To : CHARLES ANGELICH From : TOM WALKER Date : Tue Aug 23 2005 09:30 am CA>If QA and management are not capable of doing QA and management CA>they should be replaced. I've done both and I guarantee you it CA>would be _extremely_ difficult for anyone to neglect their CA>responsibilities and pass off junk welds (or any other CA>potentially hazardous mistakes) if I was doing the CA>QA/management there. NO one3 can tell what junk lies under a Perfect Final Pass. And i nthe case of the Ship Null Plates XRAYING ever inch of weld in not possable as a practical mattwer. CA>TW> It is all a matter of Work Ethic and Honesty. And we have CA>TW> produced a population having the LOWEST Work Ethic and CA>TW> Honesty in the History of this Country in oue Wrok force. CA>I don't agree. Where I have worked people don't start out being CA>careless but they _do_ become careless if they think that their CA>best efforts won't be notice/appreciated by QA and management. ThAT IS A PERSONNAL Character FLAW. NO mater what management does or dsoen't do an HONEST person will do their best. IT is al lthais LIBERAL BULL CRAP that they have been fed over many recent generations tht says that IF you don't get "Stroked" to yuor satisfaction that is is Alragut to do a Poor job or even sabatoge the project. CA>TW> BUT the CRY is that you Absolutly cannot Teach Moral issues. CA>It can be taught, I've done it many times. Those who refuse to CA>change can be gotten rid of and replaced. NOT in any UNION shop I have come across. --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ This note from El Cajon California USA * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140) .