Subj : The universe
To   : JOSHUA LEE
From : DAVE OLDRIDGE
Date : Fri Nov 10 2000 12:37 pm

JL> -=> DAVE OLDRIDGE wrote to JOHN WILSON <=-

JL>  DO> Not necessarily.  The world has a North pole, but there is
JL>  DO> nothing north of it.

JL>  DO> And I'm not being facetious here.  Time-space does seem to focus
JL>  DO> on a singularity that we refer to as "the beginning" and we see
JL>  DO> copious astronomical evidence in support of this.  If this model
JL>  DO> is correct, then "before" the Big Bang is about as meaningless as
JL>  DO> "north of the North Pole."

JL> Are you contradicting or agreeing with the classic understanding of
JL> creatio ex nihlo? (Or, as we say in Jewish thought, yesh m'ayin.)

As long as it's understood that the creation of matter and space 
coincides with the creation of time, I don't think I see a problem.  It's this 
notion that there is actually a "time" before the beginning of time 
that I'm objecting to.

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