Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article To : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy From : Mike Coslo Date : Thu Sep 29 2005 19:56:26 From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf Matt Osborn wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:45:32 -0400, Michael Coslo > wrote: > > >> >>Zoran Brlecic wrote: >> >> >>>Matt Osborn wrote: >>> >>> >>>>You're walking on an assumption that is called gravity. Just like >>>>G-d, plenty of evidence but no proof. >>> >>> >>>What pisses me off about your posts is this almost deliberate attempt to >>>obfuscate by equivocating, word playing and substituting terms which are >>>incompatible. You keep doing it in almost every post and it gets tired >>>fast. >>>Like, for instance, in the example above: "plenty of evidence but no >>>proof" is meaningless drivel. Of all the scientific disciplines, only >>>mathematics deals with proof. Others, physics included, deal with >>>evidence which is derived from a direct or indirect observation of >>>certain phenomena and is the basis for a theory, such as the >>>gravitational theory, for example. >>>Therefore, to say that there is "no proof" for gravity is gibberish, >>>even in the solipsist sense. >> >> >> Actually, something that we call gravity undeniably exists. While our >>understanding of it is incomplete, there is no doubt that it exists. It >>is there, we see what happens if we drop someting in an area where >>"gravity" is strong, and in areas where it is virtually nonexistant. >> >> The "proof" if you will, is in the explanation and understanding of >>what we call gravity, not it's existance. >> >> Now God on the other hand, gives no real evidence at all for existence. >>Miracles are manifestations of chance, and many things that were once >>attributed to divine intervention have found ready explanations after we >>learn more about the universe. >> >> So the statement was incorrect in the first place. >> >> - Mike KB3EIA - > > > I'm afraid you're still working with assumptions. You believe your > assumptions of gravity are accurate, but for all we know they may be > entirely incorrect. My assumptions do not negate the existence of gravity, whether those assumptions are right or wrong. It exists, it's effects are measurable and known, and it has a profound daily influence on our lives. Quite quantifiable. - Mike KB3EIA - .