Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article To : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy From : Charlie Date : Thu Sep 29 2005 02:30:20 From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf Tom if what you say is true about no works = no faith and subsequently no salvation...where were the good works from the thief on the cross who, according to Christian scripture, was saved and is already in heaven? -- Charlie "Tom Donaly" wrote in message news:KHI_e.1509$rl1.1349@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > kashe@sonic.net wrote: >>>Tom Donaly wrote: >>> >>>>Faith and works are, like voltage and current, inextricably intertwined. >> >> >> They are not. >> >> >>>>The proof of faith is the good work. Those who do no good have no faith. >> >> >> Your logic book get lost in the hurricane? Come back when you >> can name the logical fallacy you just committed. > > Some of the lower forms of American Christianity try to separate faith > and works. That allows them salvation without substance, the lazy man's > path to life without end. > My last two sentences are statements of truth, not a logical > progression. Each has to be taken alone, by itself. (A religious > fundamentalist insisting on logical consistency constitutes a > pretty good joke.) Let me repeat: Those who do no good have no > faith. Next time you and your friends are sitting around speaking > in tongues, you should discuss this. Maybe, if you all think real > hard, together, you can puzzle out what it means. > 73, > Tom Donaly, KA6RUH .