Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article
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From : kashe
Date : Tue Sep 27 2005 07:30:21

From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 20:13:50 -0700, Zoran Brlecic
<...WA7AA...@get.lost> wrote:

>Matt Osborn wrote:
>
>>>>>I hardly consider myself a fanatic, and am extremely unlike to "hammer"
>>>>>anyone over religion, or lack there of.
>>>>>
>>>>>Some of the most fanatical are those members of the religion of atheism.
>>>
>>>Yeah? When was the last time an atheist:
>> 
>> 
>> Ever hear of Stalin? Lenin? Mao?
>> 
>> Can you name three other people who have been responsible for as many
>> untimely deaths as these three?
>
>
>This tired old argument???
>
>First of all I notice that you haven't addressed any of the specific 
>examples I gave about *theists* and their religious crimes.
>Second, all of the examples I gave are about theists committing crimes 
>against humanity precisely *because* of their religion, directly and 
>indirectly.
>As far as "Stalin, Lenin and Mao" are concerned, their crimes were most 
>certainly not committed in order to promote atheism, unless that atheism 
>was a vehicle for establishing communism, which btw, is de facto a form 
>of religion. Religion was not outlawed in the USSR and priests were 
>being prosecuted no more than the rest of the society. Communism and 
>theism can co-exist and did successfully in most communist countries. 
>Besides, Stalin spent years in a seminary. Some atheist.
>One could just as successfully argue that since "Stalin, Lenin and Mao" 
>committed crimes and they all ate bread, then by your logic people who 
>eat bread are murderers.

	Mother's milk as gateway drug.

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