Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article To : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy From : Matt Osborn Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 18:02:09 From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:44:55 -0400, Uncle Ted wrote: >On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:35:44 -0500, Matt Osborn <> wrote: > > >>You have made no case for atheism. All you have done is list a series >>of things in which do not believe. You have not listed what you do >>believe or in what you have placed your faith. >> >>Atheism is a logically faulty concept. Being human, you cannot >>possibly know everything. What you may think of the unknown is >>entirely up to you, but whatever that may be, will require just as >>much faith as any other religion. Your religion simply has different >>trappings. > >There are some atheists who say that there is no god, and there are >others who say that the existence of any god can neither be proven nor >disproved. Either way, those asserting a belief in a god have the >burden of proof. It's not up to atheists to prove that a god does not >exist. Of course, you are correct when you say that humans cannot >possibly know everything, but to accept a concept such as "god" is >applying faith without any critical thinking or reason. This is blind >faith. I would suggest that the lack of critical thinking is incorrect. Of course there are those of all faiths, including atheists who lack critical thinking, so that says nothing at all. Some people tack a motivational device on their refrigerator to remind themselves several times each and everyday of some difficult goal that they wish to accomplish. Some people 'dress up' their faith, give it a personality to better enable their faith to counter the whims of the moment. I find no fault with any of these and will use either when I need help maintaining focus. Atheists seem to believe that the religious think the way they do because of their religion. I would suggest they have chosen religion because of the way they think. In other words, the religious would believe as they do even in the absence of any religion. -- msosborn at msosborn dot com .