Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article
To   : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From : Matt Osborn
Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 17:09:59

From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:33:56 GMT, Cecil Moore <mycall@arrl.net> wrote:

>Matt Osborn wrote:
>> In all of our science and knowledge, we have yet to find random
>> things.
>
>False. Certain characteristics of entangled particles are
>completely random and must remain so in order to avoid faster
>than light transfer of information, something presently
>considered to be impossible. Can your G-d communicate at
>faster than light speeds?
>
>> Atheists are no different than the religious, they, as do the
>> religious themselves, simply believe in different things.
>
>False. The absence of a belief is the exact opposite of the
>existence of a belief. By your logic, the absence of a tree
>is exactly the same thing as the presence of a tree. Methinks
>you picked the wrong newsgroup to try to flim-flam. Are you
>an EH antenna salesman by any chance? :-)

Once again, my point has been missed.  The absence of belief is
exactly that, an absence of belief.  I do not claim that an atheist
believes because he has an absence of belief.  I don't know why
anybody would find that in any post I've written unless that was what
they were looking for.

I do say, that all people believe, religious and atheist alike. The
belief or disbelief in G-d is entirely irrelevant to my point.

All people, religious and  atheist alike, have a fundamental belief
system upon which they depend to make choices and to plan their lives.
I say belief system, because we cannot know everything that exists.

The religious openly declare that their belief system is centered
about the concept of G-d.  The atheist do not declare what their
belief system is centered upon.

My point is that it makes no difference if one declares his belief
system and the other does not.  They both rely upon the unknown to
make their choices; they are, in all practical purposes, operating in
exactly the same way.



-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

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