Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article
To   : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From : Uncle Ted
Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 12:06:09

From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 05:27:54 -0500, Matt Osborn <> wrote:


>You do have blind faith in something unless you've already discovered
>everything.  None of us can say anything of the unknown with
>certainty, yet we all have the faith to tackle the unknown head on and
>to carve from it useful knowledge.

Of course, if you paint with that broad of a stroke, faith can mean
just about anything you want it to mean. To say that atheists have
"faith" in their beliefs or that such beliefs are actually a religion
is flawed. I can assure you that if some winged being flew down out of
the sun and ended all disease, suffering, and hunger, and brought
peace to the world, and if every person in the world called this being
"god" in their own native tongue, I guarantee even the most hardcore
atheist would have faith in that god. 

>BTW, despite the allegations, there is no conflict between science and
>religion. The religious use science just as much as the rest of us.

No, the conflict is about religionists trying to pass their beliefs
off as science. 

>>What difference does this make? I don't know how the Universe began and 
>>quite possibly no one will ever know exactly, but does that mean we can 
>>simply pull the "answers" out of our asses? I am not playing the god of 
>>the gaps game either. That's just stupid.
>
>If you don't know everything, than you have to have faith that you can
>operate and archive something in the face of the unknown.  How you
>perceive that faith is up to you, but it is there.

....and the brush strokes become even broader.

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