Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article To : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy From : Matt Osborn Date : Fri Sep 23 2005 11:41:28 From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:59:36 -0500, Tom Ring wrote: >Tom Ring wrote: > >> Matt Osborn wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> A few thousand compared to 50 million? >>> >> >> Well that certainly makes it ok. You mean you aren't an absolutist? >> >> tom >> K0TAR >> > >The difference between me and you is that I know it's always wrong, and >you seem to have left an opening for your "religion" to do evil things >becuase your morality says it's ok. > >I'm sorry that you can't understand that an atheist can have morals not >tied to superstition, but to to true right and wrong. We weren't discussing my morality. I have merely tried to present the arguments clearly. Morals require a foundation, a platform upon which rational decisions can be made. Since mankind, through science or any other means cannot know everything, some things must be assumed. To base our choices upon assumptions requires faith that our assumptions are at least plausible. If we have faith, then we are not atheists, we are religious, we believe. If you can present a cogent argument for ethics and morality that requires absolutely no assumptions, then you could make a case for atheism. -- msosborn at msosborn dot com .