Subj : Re: "Hams to the Rescue After Katrina" MSNBC News Article To : alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy From : Matt Osborn Date : Fri Sep 23 2005 10:50:09 From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:37:02 -0400, Uncle Ted wrote: >On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:15:44 -0400, Mike Coslo > wrote: > > >>> >>> >>> By definition, anyone who has a system of beliefs cannot consider >>> himself to be an atheist. >> >> Are you serious? You sound like the preacher who said that atheists >>with morals are hypocrites. >> >> > >Those preachers don't believe anyone can be moral without bowing down >to their so-called kind, loving "Christian" god that threatens people >with eternal torture after they die if they don't kiss their god's >ass. Anyone who has a basis for ethical and moral behavior must bow to the authority of that basis. Some call that authority G-d, atheists refuse to identify that authority, or simply identify it as science or knowledge. We are not so fortunate that we can believe in the possibility of moral or ethical behavior without also presenting a basis for that behavior. -- msosborn at msosborn dot com .