Subj : Re: I BLAME BRAGA
To   : rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,alt.tv.star-trek.voyager,alt.tv.star-trek.ds9
From : Joe
Date : Thu Sep 08 2005 14:35:06

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.voyager

Speaking of B5...(SPOILER)...

Was the idea of Sinclair as Valen (sp?) always planned or did they invent 
that due to wanting to fire Michael O'Hare? Or did he not get fired? Bottom 
line, why was he off the show after one season?

"Anthony Cerrato" <tcerrato@optonline.net> wrote in message 
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> "Joe" <joe@joe.com> wrote in message
> news:1126100878.275c75e1bb9da680043d2f34ba242621@teranews...
>> <lee66132000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:1126040543.993216.181830@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> > "DS9 was space opera as distinct from just Trek. That's
> why i loved it,
>> >
>> > warts and all. It had the same strength Babylon 5 had,
> which was that
>> > every episode was not only a story in itself but part of
> an overall . .
>> > ."
>> >
>> > No, it lacked a number of BABYLON 5's strengths.  That
> is why DS9 ended
>> > up being just as good as TNG or VOY . . . but not
> better.  The writers
>> > screwed it up in the end - especially during the last
> two seasons.
>>
>> Good observation but it still rates much higher than
> Voyager and just edges
>> out TNG. Babylon 5 (which I've only seen the first 3 1/2
> season (stopped
>> after the Sinclair / Valen (sp) show) was excellent as
> well and I hope to
>> finish that series soon.
>
> OK; maybe DS9 more than just edges out TNG but I'll accept
> that--it beat out Voy tho by a mile (I still watched that
> tho also.)
> I guess Ent and Voy were almost comparable (hard to judge
> since the number of eps is so different.)
>
> I would say that Bab 5's greatness stems from 2
> things--probably the best high concept (and climax and
> resolution) of any show to date plus a much greater "alien"
> atmosphere than most...if not for these points, DS9 would
> have been the far, far, better show vs. Bab 5 instead of
> just the merely far better one. The alien-ness of DS9 was
> restricted in a way because Trek was always told from the
> POV of the Federation/Earth, i.e., a somewhat
> anthropocentric view--somehow, Bab 5 managed to be more
> egalitarian (as well as mystical,) giving it a much more
> removed POV. IMO. I'm hard pressed to choose between them,
> but DS9 definitely wins due to superb overall story arc and
> characterization.                                 ...tonyC
>
>

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