Subj : Re: Was It Rally That Bad? To : alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise From : rgorman Date : Thu Sep 29 2005 19:24:05 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:44:23 -0700, "Ron Hubbard" wrote: > >"David Johnston" wrote in message >news:4338b4a6.55847274@news.telusplanet.net... >> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:40:27 -0700, "Ron Hubbard" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Gerald Meazell" wrote in message >> >news:3HJZe.105$sL3.5@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> >> Ron Hubbard wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Just how old are you? >> >> >> >> Old enough to have watched TOS's first run. >> > >> >As the song says, how bizarre. I try to watch these >> >shows without bias and TOS had a lot more hits >> >than misses. There was a workable combination >> >of humor and seriousness, and a great sense of >> >camaraderie especially between Kirk, Spock, and >> >McCoy but also with the other members of the >> >bridge crew. >> > >> >Now special effects aside, I thought TOS was a >> >damn good series. In my opinion, nothing came >> >close to it's writing. But Voyager had come closest >> >to TOS in terms of concept and spirit: Janeway and >> >crew were on their own for the most part without >> >any aid or contact from Starfleet. Much of the >> >time that was the situation with Kirk & crew. >> >> Not true. Kirk was constantly getting new assignments from >> Starfleet and dealing with dimwitted ambassadors and insane Starfleet >> captains. > >Not a whole lot. Most of the shows didn't have Starfleet >in them. Journey To Babel was one of the exceptions; >and only one insane captain, that was Garth. Unless of course you remember The Doomsday Machine and The Omega Glory, both of which featured insane Starfleet Captains and the Ultimate Computer which featured a cybernetic equivalent. I'm not sure about Bread and Circuses. Was that captain still in Starfleet or was he just ex-Starfleet? Then there was the insane Federation sociologist in Patterns of Force, and the dimwitted Federation ambassadors in Journey to Babel, as you mention, but also Metamorphosis, and A Taste of Armageddon (the one in "Is There In Truth No Beauty" wasn't dimwitted). We should also mention the irresponsible Federation administrators who appear in The Trouble With Tribbles, Devil in the Dark, Court Martial, Dagger of the Mind. And let us not overlook the Tholian Web, Further even apart from these episodes, there were quite a few where the only reason the Enterprise had for being there was that they were acting on orders from the Federation, supply missions to archaeological digs, missions checking up Federation colonies, ships and installations that that had gone missing, espionage missions on the border, territorial disputes with neighbours all of which were shows predicated on having a Federation within practical communication and travel distance. .