Subj : Re: Rumor thread To : alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise From : Wandering Wastrel Date : Wed Sep 21 2005 11:24:14 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise In article , merry_piper_YOUR@COATyahoo.com says... > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:26:29 -0500, Keeper of the Purple Twilight > wrote: > > >On 2005-09-20 22:23:20 -0500, The Merry Piper > > said: > > > >> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:10:16 -0700, Wandering Wastrel > >> wrote: > >> > >>> In article <1BNXe.15521$mH.24@fed1read07>, aevansjr3@cox.net says... > >>>> I dunno I read in sci-fi mag as well thier was a small hint it may come > >>>> back. I wish sci-fi channel would buy it and add it to thiier > >>>> excellent friday line up! > >>> > >>> If they would reimagine it the way they did BSG -- start over, get a > >>> new cast, leave out the Suliban/Future Guy time-traveling crap (and the > >>> idiotic Xindi arc) -- I'd watch. But if they just took up where they > >>> left off -- season four improvements notwithstanding -- why bother? > >> > >> I agree. The timeframe is rich with possibilities. > > > >Oh God, no. Do NOT do to Trek what they did to BSG. Trek is not like > >that, it's not supposed to be a show so depressing it makes a Bergman > >film look like a comedy. That's what I like about Trek's vision of > >humanity - it's risen above all those weak flaws. Trek is about hope, > >optimism and no small amount of idealism. Not a "humans are scum" kind > >of thing. > > Well, I didn't really say all that. > > FWIW I agree with you about Trek and never stated otherwise. Still, > re-imagining ENT to bring it more into line with the other established > Trek TV series would be a good thing. Re-imagining a series doesn't > necessarily mean making it "dark & depressing." Agreed. In the case of ENT I would like to see it reimagined more along the lines of what Coto was doing in season four. Unfortunately the canon established in the previous three seasons would have imposed some limits. For instance, giving the Klingons superior weaponry -- that was plain idiotic. If anything it would have been better to have them start out as inferior in technology and then have some other race -- maybe even humanity -- give them the technology, making a case for the prime directive. You don't have to go the BSG route -- though I like the new BSG -- but you could acknowledge that humanity hasn't grown totally beyond its less savory attributes. The conflict that was highlighted in "Terra Prime" would have made for some very interesting storylines and character development. I also would not have given the Vulcans such a prominent role, making them the gatekeepers of humanity's development -- nor would I have made them as petulant and "un-Vulcan" as they were (with examples of this to numerous to list here). I would have portrayed the Vulcans as ignoring humans for the most part with a few members of their race demonstrating an almost subversive interest in humanity. The possibility for tension and the growth of the Earth Vulcan alliance would establish a more complex interaction that would provide for some interesting threads. I could go on and on, but the depressing fact is a lot of the tripe spewed forth in the first three seasons of ENT will remain a part of canon. It could be many years before someone would have the nerve to reframe the series in a way that would obliterate the memory of its first incarnation. BSG was able to flush away the connection so well that there is very little resemblance between the cheesy, cornball original and the dark vision of the present version. I don't think ENT should necessarily go so dark, but it should be redone in a way that makes it fit better with the Trek universe we know and love. Who knows, maybe twenty-five years from now someone will. ww .