Subj : Re: I BLAME BRAGA
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From : ANIM8Rfsk
Date : Thu Sep 08 2005 09:59:38

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.ds9

in article 1126192787.771343.251610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Bozo the
Evil Klown at Evilklowwn@aol.com wrote on 9/8/05 8:19 AM:

> 
> lee66132000@yahoo.com wrote:
>> "The Year of Hell should have taken place over most of the run of Voy,
>> 
>> 
>>> Nobody's gonna believe this, but it's true: Berman and Braga wanted to
>>> do exactly that (actually I think they were going to make one season
>>> into the Year of Hell), but were vetoed by the network suits."
>> 
>> 
>> The Year of Hell WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN in the first place.  That is
>> why the reset button was pushed in the end.  I get the feeling that
>> many people weren't paying attention to the story.
>> 
>> And I also suspect that the real reason so many bash the show is
>> because the lead character was a woman.
> 
> 
> If you read the posts you'll see the reason we bash the show is that
> the lead character was usually a moron- and for the most part the crew
> wasn't much better.  Consider that the rare well-done episodes got
> praise *even though* the lead character was that same woman.

Sure.  I mean, Janeway was an incompetent fool, who got hundreds of her crew
killed (given all the resets and stuff).  Of course, it was sort of
necessary, as the series concept requires her to fail every week.  But it's
got nothing to do with her being a woman; it's got to do with her being an
idiot.  Right from the first episode, when she got them stranded in the
Delta Quad in the first place, because she BLEW UP THE WAY HOME having never
heard of a timer mechanism to delay a blast.

Still, she was probably like my third favorite character.  The Doctor was
first, and Kes was second, and then Janeway a distant third.  She also had a
nitwit engineer, a nitwit traitorous drug pushing second in command, a
nitwit 'had to get him out of prison in the first place' pilot, and 3 other
people (using the term loosely) who varied between wildly over-competent and
completely non functional depending on the needs of the script from moment
to moment.

If she didn't fail every week, they'd have gotten home, and the series would
have been over, which a lot of us were rooting for.

Of course, at least once, they just freaking GAVE UP.  They found a way to
go ludicrously fast, but it was dangerous to go ludicrously fast for more
than a minute, so Janeway just ordered the engine modifications disassembled
and stuck in storage.  Not studied, reused, tested; just warehoused like the
Arc of the Covenant on a ship that was running out of everything except for
whatever it needed.  Completely ignoring that jumps UNDER one minute seemed
to be perfectly safe, and if they'd made about 10 of them, they'd have been
home.  You don't have to care about her gender to be annoyed at THAT
decision.

The only really gender linked criticism I recall was when Q brought them all
back to Earth, and said 'sleep with me and I'll leave your ship here' and
standing there, looking at the Earth from orbit, she says 'nope' so he sends
them all back across the galaxy and everybody that dies from that point on
is on her head, although of course they were in the first place.  The point
was made that if it was a female Q, Kirk would have slept with her to save
his ship. Sisko would have.  Picard would have, but wouldn't have enjoyed
it.  And Riker would have freaking slept with a MALE Q to save the ship.
Only Janeway said "I'd rather all these people die than have sex to save
them"

> 
> *****
> The Joker in the Eeeeeeevil Cabal Deck of Cards.
> 
> OZ: So... do you guys steal weapons from the Army a lot?
> 
> WILLOW: Well, we don't get cable, so we have to make our own fun.
> 

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