Subj : Re: New Wine
To   : Newborn
From : Finnigann
Date : Tue Sep 13 2005 05:22:00

-=> Newborn wrote to Finnigann <=-

 Ne>   Re: Re: New Wine
 Ne>   By: Finnigann to Newborn on Mon Sep 12 2005 06:07 am

 > -=> Newborn wrote to Finnigann <=-
 >
 >  Ne>   Re: Re: New Wine
 >  Ne>   By: Finnigann to Spiffwiggler on Sun Sep 11 2005 10:46 am
 >
 >  > -=> Spiffwiggler wrote to Warp 4 <=-
 >  >
 >  >  Sp>   Re: New Wine
 >  >  Sp>   By: Warp 4 to Newborn on Sat Sep 10 2005 10:56 pm
 >  >
 >  >  >   Re: New Wine
 >  >  >   By: Newborn to George Pope on Fri Sep 09 2005 03:19 am
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  >    From the beganing prophecy spoke of the Savior thus it was not s
 >  >  >  >    that He should come.  We should have recognized His first coming
 >  >  >  >    look forward to His second coming.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Maybe I should not be expressing my opinions on this here but I feel I
 >  >  > should.  It is my firm belief that the second coming of Christ is upon
 >  >  > There are just too many things happening these days that correlate to
 >  >  > events prophesied in the Book of Revelations.  Not sure if you share m
 >  >  > same views on this or not.  Either way, I'm waiting patiently for the
 >  >  > when my Creator and Savior will return for me.
 >  >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Sp> Amen. The second coming of Christ is upon us! Every day the clock ti
 >  >  Sp> down one more notch. There are few if any prophecies left to be
 >  >  Sp> fulfullied. I study prophecy. Praise God! The time is nigh!
 >  >
 >  > Don't you have a sandwitchboard and street corner to get back to? Hypocri
 >  >
 >  Ne>    Before calling him a Hyprocit show some proof.  Otherwise your
 >  Ne> opinion is
 >  Ne>    just that your opinion.
 >
 >  Ne> Newborn
 >
 > Did not Jesus tech love and understanding? Are not those principals in the
 > bible?
 >
 Ne>    Jesus taught Love, even of your enemy.  He also said His disciples
 Ne> will
 Ne>    follow His commandments.  While Jesus taught understanding He also
 Ne> taught
 Ne>    obedience.  He who forgave the Prostitue also said "Go and sin no
 Ne> more."

Is one conditional on the other? Doesn't the bible say god is love? or is that
conditional at times too?

 > Is Spiff saying just the oppisite?

 Ne>    I don't really think so.  He's concerned about repentence and
 Ne> obedience.
 Ne>    Both are signs of reliance upon the Lord for our Salvation.

No, it seemed to me that Spiffy was making judgments rather thanhelping - hence
my harsh replys.

 >
 > And as far as the rest of religion goes... well it can't go far enough.
 >
 > ... 665: The Sign of the Beast's neighbor

 Ne>    Let me add one further comment.  Religion never saves anyone, it is
 Ne> Jesus
 Ne>    Christ who paid the penalty for our sin not religion.  Judas was a
 Ne> disciple
 Ne>    and yet he was not a believer.  A person can be a believer without
 Ne> being a
 Ne>    disciple, but one has to believe before he can become a true
 Ne> Disciple in the
 Ne>    Lord.


I'll go a step further, I think organized religion has hurt alot of people. Of
the people that want to follow, religion turns some away - for no good reason.

The majority of people think sexual preferences are not a choice. The SEX drive
is too well ingrained into the psych (whoever introduced words into language
beginning with 'psych' should be publicly humiliated!) to be a choice.

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