Subj : Does God Require???? To : Spiffwiggler From : Newborn Date : Sun Sep 25 2005 00:12:00 Re: Does God Require???? By: Spiffwiggler to All on Sat Sep 24 2005 11:46 pm > I read a post today that asked something to the effect of "Do we have to obe > God's rules in order to obtain His love?" And I have been thinking alot abou > this lately. The answer is no, God loves us not matter what. Some scripture > verses that support this are listed as follows: > > Romans 8:32 "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all > how shall he no with him also freely give us all things?" The scriptures als > say that God is not willing that any should perish, but that ALL would come > Him through his son Jesus Christ. God does not Condemn us to eternal > separation from Him. We condemn ourselves by rejecting His Love. Which was s > to us in the physical presence of Jesus who is called Christ. > > Back in Genesis when the scriptures tell how God created All things, it says > that He created Man in His image. We were perfect initially with free will. > God said that he gave us all the fruit of the trees of the Garden of Eden to > eat from except the Tree of knowlege of Good and Evil, and the tree of life. > gave us dominion over ALL of the creatures of the land, sea, and air. He > created us, and we were His most cherished creation. > > Satan, who was a fallen angel, sought to take the place of God. He decieved > Adam and Eve into eating from the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil by > twisting God's words Read in Genesis 3:1-13 " Now the serpent was more subti > than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto th > woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (Go > never said that) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the frui > of the trees of the garden: But the fruit of the tree which is in the midst > the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it > lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: F > God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened > and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that > tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree > desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and ga > also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. And the eyes of them both we > opened , and they knew that they were naked; and the sewed fig leaves togeth > and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking > the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from > the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. And the Lord G > called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? > > And he said I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was > naked; and I hid myself. And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Ha > thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat > And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of t > tree, and I did eat. (Adam shifts responsibility to Eve, rather than face th > consequences of his actions) And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is t > that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did > eat. (Now Eve shifts the blame to the serpent, the serpent alone is not to > blame, but Adam and Eve are also to blame) > > > Now God being true and just has to honor his word, Death must come of the > actions of eating from the tree of the knowlege of Good and Evil. Due to the > original sin of man, ALL MEN MUST DIE Physically. The result of dying in sin > a second death, spiritual death. God being just and righteous and loving > offered us a way out of this second death, into which we can have spiritual > life, and spend eternity with him, as was his original desire and plan. This > way out comes in the form of the Body of Jesus Christ. God becoming man, to > for the sins of ALL men, that believing on Him, we would have eternal life. > > > Praise be to God almighty, may he bless the reading of His word!! > > > -Rev. Michael E. Washburn > Amen! Christ fulfilled the law, dying for our Salvation. If we could have merited our own Salvation Jesus would not have died to provide it. Newborn Christianity is a personal relationship, not a relgion. --- þ Synchronet þ Origin: The Hard Drive Cafe - Montgomery Al USA - www.hdcbbs.net .