Subj : Re: Rome To : alt.tv.farscape From : John Iwaniszek Date : Tue Aug 30 2005 01:14:00 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape John I wrote in news:Xns96C17989BC06Doiwhnanri@66.26.32.7: > Tyler Trafford wrote: > >> John I wrote: >>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>> >>>> RR wrote: >>>>> Tyler Trafford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> As is typical, I have little to say. The show has intrigued me >>>>>>>> enough to watch more episodes, which I suppose means "it >>>>>>>> rocks"-ish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trafford completely fails to mention Polly Walker's incredibly >>>>>>> hot nude scenes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I mean, like *WAY* hot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Too true, too true. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Out of respect (and ignorance), I will not speculate as to why >>>>>>> this is. >>>>>> >>>>>> The review *was* suspiciously short on facts. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect your mind was subconsciously[1] on other things at the >>>>> time of writing. >>>>> >>>>> [1] I often question my use of the various forms of word >>>>> "subconcious". Sometimes I see people using the word "unconscious" >>>>> where it seems they should use "sub". Does not sub = "beneath the >>>>> thinking mind", while un = "out cold"? >>>> >>>> You are correct, sir. >>>> >>>> I had a psych professor who said that whole idea of 'subconscious' >>>> or 'subliminal' was wrong, because there was nothing beneath the >>>> thinking mind. (Besides autonomic reflexes, obviously.) >>> >>> I think your professor was wack. There are connections and >>> expressions that get built without conscious thought all the time. >>> The creative process is a prime example. How many times have we all >>> had that moment when a great idea came unbidden. Clearly >>> unconscience (subconconscious, if you will) mental processes were >>> at work making associations between concepts and memories before the >>> idea was triggered and registered in conscious thought. >>> >>> I think your professor suffered from the kind of right brained >>> deficiency you get in a lot of PhDs. They spend so much time and >>> effort in higly congnitive and consciously logical thought, and are >>> divorced from their other more emotional mental sides, that they >>> lose touch with important mental faculties. >>> >>> Also "Unconscious" was used by Freud and Jung in much the same >>> way we often use Sub-conscious. >> >> Now that I think about it, it may have only been "subliminal >> perception" that he was talking about. (It was an 8am class my first >> semester in college, I can't be expected to retain much.) > > More on this later. > (grotesque and consistent miss-spellings corrected) The coolest concept of 'mind' I have ever heard holds that mind is the total set of inputs and processes contained within the extreme boundaries of our bodies. (I think I have mentioned this idea here previously.) So the senses that we are concious of and the proprioceptive inputs (concious and un) that trigger internal processes are all part of what we term our self. .