Subj : Re: Some good news at least To : alt.tv.farscape From : John Iwaniszek Date : Sun Sep 04 2005 19:50:23 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > John Iwaniszek wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96C760F6036A03v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Larson wrote in >>>> news:Xns96C75B0F53FBF3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >>>> >>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nick wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96C76B3801495ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote in >>>>>>>> news:Xns96C76EE68D0BBjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.8: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Steve Brooks" wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:fGCSe.3238$7p1.3164@newsfe7-win.ntli.net: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to our radio all the people who want to leave New >>>>>>>>>> Orleans have now been evacuated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Except for the peopel trapped in their atics and everyone else >>>>>>>>> who aren't being counted as part of "Operatoin Cover Bush's >>>>>>>>> Ass". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN >>>>>>>> International report >>>>>>>> on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, yesterday, >>>>>>>> and reports of the same event by German TV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely >>>>>>>> staged >>>>>>>> event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution >>>>>>>> point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down >>>>>>>> immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' >>>>>>>> had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were >>>>>>>> abandoned at the same time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The people in the area were once again left to fend for >>>>>>>> themselves, said ZDF." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's been more than a week. This is a national embarrasment. >>>>>>>> Worse: people are still dying. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those particular Germans are full of crap. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nothing mus be said against Dear Leader. I wonder who the good >>>>>> Germans are now? >>>>> >>>>> Conversely, everything said against Dear Leader is not >>>>> automatically true. Independent confirmation would be nice. >>>>> >>>>> Just as a point for consideration: >>>>> >>>>> http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/heute_zdf/ >>>>> >>>>> (I'm not taking the above at face value. However, I have followed >>>>> a little German and French news now and then , and in my >>>>> throroughly unenlightened and subjective opinion, they do not >>>>> match the Brits for objectivity.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Some of the reports of the potempkin relief stations came from >>>> people on the ground, and people watching live feeds. And frankly, >>>> considering the lies and deception these people have proven they >>>> are capable of in just about every situation large and small, who >>>> are you going to believe? >>>> >>>> >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> >>>> "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees." - >>>> George W. Bush, Sept 1, 2005. >>>> >>>> (Do I need to point out how ridiculous and lame this particular lie >>>> is?) >>>> >>>> >>>> "Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact >>>> for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials >>>> said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of >>>> emergency, the senior Bush official said." >>>> >>>> (http://tinyurl.com/bhkqg a pdf of the governor's declaration of a >>>> state of emergency dated 26 august and extending to 25 september. >>>> Furthermore: http://tinyurl.com/d5pd2 a link to the announcement >>>> that the President declared a state of emergency wherein "FEMA is >>>> authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, >>>> equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the >>>> emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective measures, >>>> including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent >>>> Federal funding.") >>>> >>>> >>>> The excuses and blame shifting started looking pathological last >>>> week. At this point, They've become criminal. >>>> >>> >>> I don't dispute any of this. For all I know, the ZDF report may even >>> be true. Anyone paying even cursory attention to nothing more than >>> the big national media outlets will have noticed the glaring >>> inconsistencies between the administration's positions and a little >>> thing I like to call reality. That is unless they've got their >>> fingers in their ears and are screaming, "I'm not listening," which >>> I'm sure is precisely what a lot of people are doing. >>> >>> My only point is that while it may be nice to believe every negative >>> story about them, the more outlandish[1] ones are self defeating. It >>> provides a focal point for their counter-bullshit. In effect, it >>> provides them with a free strawman to knock down, pound into the >>> ground, dance upon and point out to the finger-in-ear "I support the >>> Preznit" crowd with the nice, calming reassurances they have come to >>> expect. It undermines the real stories of incompetence and >>> stupidity. >>> >> >> I'm not disputing that one needs to be critical in citing stories >> from widely distributed sources. However, the corroboratoin of the >> potemkin aid stations is not going to come from major outlets. The >> journalists > > The size of the outlet is irrelevant. Is it coming from anywhere other > than ZDF? Anywhere that can be cited? > It's no more reliable than the one that passed on Bush's reaction to seeing black people in Brazil, "You have black people here?" Just wait and watch. It will either appear or it won't. However, I think that CNN reported on the potemkin relief swing through Mississippi when Bush hugged the two women who were asking about clothes, he was telling them they could get food at a nearby shelter, they said they needed clothes, he said they could get food at the shelter, and the relief worker pointed out that the shelter was destroyed in the storm. There was an advance team that cleared debris and removed bodies, Dear Leader breezed in with a huge sqaud of security and prop-Guardsmen, had his photo-op, then breezed out leaving the vicitims with what they had before he showed up: Nothing. And this is in the racist asshole Hale Barbour's state. >> In short, it pays to listen to the back channels because without them >> we would be th edumb, fat, and stupid Americans that so many of us >> have aspired to in recent years. > > I don't dispute any of this. Now where's my 24 oz. steak, basket of > fries and 32 oz. soda? > .