Subj : Re: Some good news at least To : alt.tv.farscape From : Nick Date : Sun Sep 04 2005 18:52:10 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.farscape Jim Larson wrote: > John Iwaniszek wrote: > >> Jim Larson wrote in >> news:Xns96C75B0F53FBF3v234oiwofui3284af93@130.133.1.18: >> >>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>> >>>> Nick wrote in >>>> news:Xns96C76B3801495ndtcm@ 68.1.17.6: >>>> >>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote in >>>>>> news:Xns96C76EE68D0BBjoiwhnanri@66.26.32.8: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Steve Brooks" wrote in >>>>>>> news:fGCSe.3238$7p1.3164@newsfe7-win.ntli.net: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to our radio all the people who want to leave New >>>>>>>> Orleans have now been evacuated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Except for the peopel trapped in their atics and everyone >>>>>>> else who aren't being counted as part of "Operatoin Cover >>>>>>> Bush's Ass". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN >>>>>> International report >>>>>> on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, >>>>>> yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV. >>>>>> >>>>>> ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely >>>>>> staged >>>>>> event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food >>>>>> distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was >>>>>> torn down immediately after the president and the herd of >>>>>> 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly >>>>>> being set up were abandoned at the same time. >>>>>> >>>>>> The people in the area were once again left to fend for >>>>>> themselves, said ZDF." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's been more than a week. This is a national embarrasment. >>>>>> Worse: people are still dying. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Those particular Germans are full of crap. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nothing mus be said against Dear Leader. I wonder who the good >>>> Germans are now? >>> >>> Conversely, everything said against Dear Leader is not >>> automatically true. Independent confirmation would be nice. >>> >>> Just as a point for consideration: >>> >>> http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/heute_zdf/ >>> >>> (I'm not taking the above at face value. However, I have >>> followed a little German and French news now and then , and in >>> my throroughly unenlightened and subjective opinion, they do not >>> match the Brits for objectivity.) >>> >> >> Some of the reports of the potempkin relief stations came from >> people on the ground, and people watching live feeds. And >> frankly, considering the lies and deception these people have >> proven they are capable of in just about every situation large >> and small, who are you going to believe? >> >> >> For example: >> >> >> "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees." - >> George W. Bush, Sept 1, 2005. >> >> (Do I need to point out how ridiculous and lame this particular >> lie is?) >> >> >> "Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact >> for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials >> said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of >> emergency, the senior Bush official said." >> >> (http://tinyurl.com/bhkqg a pdf of the governor's declaration of >> a state of emergency dated 26 august and extending to 25 >> september. Furthermore: http://tinyurl.com/d5pd2 a link to the >> announcement that the President declared a state of emergency >> wherein "FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at >> its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate >> the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency >> protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be >> provided at 75 percent Federal funding.") >> >> >> The excuses and blame shifting started looking pathological last >> week. At this point, They've become criminal. >> > > I don't dispute any of this. For all I know, the ZDF report may > even be true. Anyone paying even cursory attention to nothing more > than the big national media outlets will have noticed the glaring > inconsistencies between the administration's positions and a > little thing I like to call reality. That is unless they've got > their fingers in their ears and are screaming, "I'm not > listening," which I'm sure is precisely what a lot of people are > doing. > > My only point is that while it may be nice to believe every > negative story about them, the more outlandish[1] ones are self > defeating. It provides a focal point for their counter-bullshit. > In effect, it provides them with a free strawman to knock down, > pound into the ground, dance upon and point out to the > finger-in-ear "I support the Preznit" crowd with the nice, calming > reassurances they have come to expect. It undermines the real > stories of incompetence and stupidity. BTW, there is one flaw with your argument here. At least one person seems to believe them all. .